December 3, 2004 at 7:54 am
As of now, who has the best anti-ballistic missile system in use?
Also, how capable is the Arrow against Russian ICBMs like the Satan,Stilleto,Topol-M, etc
By: google - 17th December 2004 at 21:24
where i can find some information of the fly propieties of an ICBM, i mean trayectorie, speed, heigh, range, relation heigh-speed, MIRV range (at wich heigh-range the heads are ejected), maybe we could start an very,very interesting discussion…
Most likely, in jail. 😀
By: google - 17th December 2004 at 21:24
Date Posted: 17-Dec-2004
JANE’S DEFENCE WEEKLY – DECEMBER 22, 2004
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S-400 air-defence system operational
HENRY IVANOV JDW Special Correspondent
Moscow
Additional reporting James O’Halloran Editor Jane’s Land Based Defence
London
The Russian Federation Air Force (RFAF) has confirmed that two S-400 (Triumph) low- to high-altitude air-defence systems are in service with line units but that an extension of the re-arming effort depends on funding.
This information confirms a statement by Lieutenant General Aytech Bizhev, Deputy Commander-in-Chief (CinC) for the Commonwealth of Independent States Unified Air-Defence, that two S-400 systems are deployed with the air force for field testing and that these will be deployed fully in 2005.
The RFAF CinC General Vladimir Mikhaylov said on 11 December that the air-defence priority is to upgrade existing equipment and further develop the new S-400 for air defence and non-strategic missile defence.
Plans to re-arm the air force surface-to-air missile (SAM) units with the S-400 remain highly dependent on the availability of funds, and the manufacturing capacities of the industry, according to RFAF officials,.
Colonel General Boris Cheltsov, RFAF chief of staff, said the S-400 would achieve full operational readiness in 2005 after receiving a number of upgrades. Gen Bizhev also confirmed that the upgrades would allow the S-400 and the A-135M to share target data information.
Together with upgraded variants of the in-service SAM systems, the S-400 is part of an effort to “solve the issues of non-strategic missile defence”. Gen Cheltsov, who headed the air force commission that supervised S-400 fire trials, said the commission has recommended to the Russian Ministry of Defence (MoD) that it accepts the S-400 in service “in a variant with a standard missile”. Earlier it had been recommended that the S-400 enter trial service with missiles already used by the S-300 series.
Gen Bizhev said the S-400 would initially be located to protect Moscow, St Petersburg and the Urals industrial region, as well as border stretches “where missile attacks can be expected”. He also said the S-400 could destroy cruise missiles and aircraft at a range of 250 km and at a range of heights from several dozen metres to the stratosphere.
The S-400, when operational with the new long-range missile (40N6), is claimed to have a range of 400 km and it is believed to have passed firing tests with all missile types.
The existing S-400s are currently undergoing capability enhancements for interoperability with the space forces assets.
The Russian armed forces say that the S-400 can potentially be used against strategic ballistic missiles after separation of warheads. In that role the S-400s will be co-operating with the A-135 anti-missile system in service with the Russian Space Forces. Provision is made for the S-400s to receive targeting information on approaching space threats from the Russian Space Forces in an automatic mode.
The S-400/A-135 will be the first block of the Air and Space Defence (ASD) system, a future structure concept recently formulated by the Russian defence ministry. The latter said that the MoD has recently approved the ASD concept and it is currently being improved for final validation by the Russian president.
Among other things, the ASD calls for a unitary radar field over Russia, similar to that which the Soviet Union had, but “on a new quality level”. To achieve this, a united air traffic control/air-defence radar field will be created, combining the means of civil and military structures. Almaz-Antei (Air Defence Concern or Kontsern PVO) has been selected to lead the effort. Almaz-Antei will act as systems integrator and also supplier of major elements such as phased-array radar systems and ‘identification friend or foe’ interrogators.
‘Moscow reveals new missile for S-400 system’ (JDW 12 May 2004)
Antei S-400 (Jane’s Land Based Air Defence)
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By: over G - 16th December 2004 at 15:00
where i can find some information of the fly propieties of an ICBM, i mean trayectorie, speed, heigh, range, relation heigh-speed, MIRV range (at wich heigh-range the heads are ejected), maybe we could start an very,very interesting discussion…
By: Spectral - 15th December 2004 at 20:33
Talking about the american system, it just scored another failure. This is indeed a problematic program :rolleyes:
By: over G - 15th December 2004 at 16:30
the american ABM sistem is based in missiles interceptors????, anyone knows the performance and characteristic of such missile???
im not an expert of ABM, but in this game you play with 2 factors (i think) speed and heigh, close to the defended target is harder to intercept due to the high speed (and MIRV), at an distance of 3000-6000 km the problem is the heigh (yes still the speed is high, but not as the hell near the target), so whats is the better solution, an target defence???? or maybe an B52 -tu95 loaded with ABM missiles patroling at 3000-4000km of the possible target????(nowdays airborn lasers dont have a good range)
By: Severodvinsk - 6th December 2004 at 20:41
Sorry, made a little error, it is not Kerch who carries the S300F, yet Azov, another Kara class cruiser. Kerch was refitted with a completely new 3D AS radar instead.
By: SOC - 5th December 2004 at 18:58
SA-N-6 is the S-300F
SA-N-20 is the S-300FM
SA-10 is the S-300PT/PS/PMU
SA-20 is the S-300PM-1/PM-2/PMU-1/PMU-2
SA-21 is the S-400
Shtil-1 is the SA-N-12 (SA-17)
Shtil is the SA-N-7 (SA-11)
Uragan should be the Russian version of Shtil, with Shtil being the export designation for the system.
SA-12 is the S-300V
By: Severodvinsk - 5th December 2004 at 18:44
SA-N-9 Grumble = S300F (Top Dome guidance radar, max missile range 90km)
SA-N-20 Gargoyle = S300FM (Well I’m not sure about this one, some say it’s SA-N-21)
Tombstone guidance radar, max missile range 150-200km)
The S300F is installed in Slava cruisers,Kerch( a Kara class cruiser ) and the first three units of the Kirov class. S300FM is only installed in Pyotr Velikiy, the last unit of the Kirov class. And probably this ship has only half of its VLS filled with this missile, the other half is probably filled with S300F, since it carries a single Tombstone radar on top of the bridge and a Top Dome on the aft part.
By: dionis - 5th December 2004 at 15:42
SA-10 Grumble = S-300PMU1
SA-10 Grumble = S-300MPU2 Favorit ?
SA-12 Giant = S-300V ?
SA-20 = S-400/S-300PMU3?
and the navy versions???
someone clarify plz.. purpose and names..
By: Severodvinsk - 5th December 2004 at 13:55
Uragan is the original version (predecessor) of Shtil-1, better known as SA-N-7 or the land-based variant.
By: dionis - 5th December 2004 at 08:37
can someome clarify on all the different versions of the S-300/S-400 system?
By: Arabella-Cox - 5th December 2004 at 02:37
I suppose the US SM-3 with Aegis (on ships) is the best thing around at the moment. Some S300 versions are reported to have some Anti-ballistics capabilities too. Same counts for Uragan, but how effective the latter was?
The latest model S-300 and S-300V and S-400 missiles seem to be the best SAM based ATBM systems. The custom designed ABM aound moscow seem to be the best missiles for engaging ICBMs by default.
Whay are you talking about Uragan? What has a 220mm multiple rocket launcher have to do with this?
By: dionis - 4th December 2004 at 22:20
SM-3 better than the S-400 and the various Russian ultra long range early warning radars?
By: SOC - 3rd December 2004 at 19:25
There is a difference between an ABM and an ATBM. Arrow, the S-300V, those are ATBMs. The only operational ABM system anywhere in the world is the ABM-4 system outside of Moscow using GORGON and GAZELLE missiles.
By: Severodvinsk - 3rd December 2004 at 16:33
Anti-ballistics systems are against short to medium range ballistic missiles. These are slower than the ICBMs. Of course there are some old Russian systems, but I doubt their effectivity (and active service at the moment). I suppose the US SM-3 with Aegis (on ships) is the best thing around at the moment. Some S300 versions are reported to have some Anti-ballistics capabilities too. Same counts for Uragan, but how effective the latter was?
By: bubulle - 3rd December 2004 at 14:35
Arrow is not an Anti-ICBM system. No capability vs Satan, Stileto, Topol,