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Why using the K-3xx series désignation ?:confused:

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By: Arabella-Cox - 18th May 2009 at 14:38

Brahmos 3 missiles, bastion 3 missiles: KifKif
Launch customer for the bastion: Vietnam

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By: Austin - 18th May 2009 at 13:07

It looks more like a case of Russia already having an easily modified vehicle on hand where India had to make a new one. This Russian vehicle looks a lot like the vehicle used for Iskander.

Could very well be the R-500 cruise missile part of Iskander system , it is essentially a LACM variant of the Klub.

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By: Teer - 17th May 2009 at 13:28

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India chose to make a new one since it could leverage what it had via its Prithvi systems.

But the differences between the Bastion-P and Brahmos will go beyond just the launchers, to the command posts, and even the missiles themselves where the Russian kit will replace Indian ones. I’d say we’d have heard by now if the Bastion used any Indian kit, as it would have come out in parliamentary submissions or media reports.

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By: sferrin - 17th May 2009 at 12:50

It looks more like a case of Russia already having an easily modified vehicle on hand where India had to make a new one. This Russian vehicle looks a lot like the vehicle used for Iskander.

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By: Teer - 17th May 2009 at 00:21

Hi Trident,

The pics show the most visible difference, namely the absence of the TATRA based TELs with their 3 round launchers. The Russian TEL apparently encloses the dual launchers and is a more rugged cross country platform at first guess.

The Brahmos utilizes Tatra TELs, plus the TATRA based MCP, mobile command posts. Both of these were developed by India, including their fire control consoles & s/w, C3I and the hydraulics. Tatra’s are of course manufactured (under license) by BEML India, whereas the DRDO designed systems (in participation with the private/public firms) are integrated by ECIL, Larsen & Toubro, Datapatterns and others.

The Brahmos is also transported in Indian Composite tubes, manufactured by Tata Aerospace Materials Ltd.

The Missile itself has structural components manufactured in India by Godrej Ltd., plus other systems sourced from other firms.
The INS-GPS Nav guidance unit for instance is Indian, and is of DRDO design.

The entire missile, plus the Russian supplied components is integrated at the Brahmos complex in India.

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As such I would presume the Bastion is all Russian in comparison.

Wherever you see the Indian systems above, they would be replaced with Russian analogs.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 16th May 2009 at 17:23

In operational service? I don’t think so right now, although that could probably change in a hurry once a launch customer is found. As for the differences between Yakhont and Brahmos, the latter has some Indian input in its electronics and there are a likely to be a few other changes, but the details are a bit of a mystery.

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By: sferrin - 16th May 2009 at 02:21

Road-mobile coastal defence system based around Yakhont missiles, being delivered to Vietnam as we speak.

Any road-mobile Sizzlers in service? There were some pictures of the launch vehicle here some time back. Also, what’s the difference between Yakhont and Brahmos? Thanks.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 15th May 2009 at 15:03

Road-mobile coastal defence system based around Yakhont missiles, being delivered to Vietnam as we speak.

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By: sferrin - 15th May 2009 at 14:36

Why using the K-3xx series désignation ?:confused:

What is that? :confused:

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