May 27, 2005 at 7:52 am
Let’s take a hypothetical exercise :-
Time frame – 1 week
Objective – take over entire state of GOA (in India)
Force limitations – Armies & Navies of both nations. Air Forces not called in.
How do you think will both countries fare?
Let’s brain storm
Cheers
Dandpatta
By: bring_it_on - 29th May 2005 at 20:00
Lets do a kofi anan vs hilary clinton celebrity boxing match….that should be a more likely scenario.
By: SteveO - 29th May 2005 at 19:34
:rolleyes:
dumb thread
Stoopid!!
Ridiculous… Please close this thread 😮
It will be over before it begins. What a stupid thread!
Quit wasting yur time Cat this is a useless discussion
Calm down, it’s only a forum 😉
I did a AIRWOLF vs BLUE THUNDER thread and didn’t get this abuse 🙂
By: Sameer - 29th May 2005 at 19:22
Yes this is a stupid thread and I feel stupid replying. However, I’m weak…
SteveO,
This is quite clearly a mistaken assumption. As I argued in multiple other threads the USN+USAF+NATO Allies (although they contributed very little) took 78 days to bomb Yugoslavia and still couldn’t destroy its army nor its air defense network completely – India is much bigger and much more advanced – good luck.
You are quite the naughty man 😀
Your post should have been
Its the yar 2010 and the IN, PLAN, the entire Russian Navy and the French Navy supported by 50 su-30MKs vs the entire USN fleet and I would bet you that the USN would still win.
By: US Agent - 29th May 2005 at 01:55

By: Sameer - 29th May 2005 at 01:19
What a dumb thread, neither the IN or the PLAN can even compete with the USN, give these two countries 30 years and things may at least become a bit more even.
I doubt that a few marines could hold India proper, judging from Iraq it would be impossble for the USN or even the US Army to hold on to India proper, however the USN could sink the IN in a matter of days, the subs could proove to be a nuisance though.
Of course at the same time as the US going against the wrong enemy another country would still be training and helping terrorists to fight in the name of God but such countries do not tend to be punished, they tend to get US tax payer’s money in the for of aide. :rolleyes:
By: matt - 29th May 2005 at 00:31
i still think the hobbits would loose..
come on guys! why is the discussion even going on?
And come on? using chem weapons on GOA? like they arent all drugged up enough already? and do you really want to kill that many British Druggys? think of how pi$$ed of your ally on terrorism will be when it cant sell opium to fund its terrorist so it can be an ally in the war against terrorism!
By: HuntingHawk - 28th May 2005 at 18:43
And why exactly Goa ?
Is there any naval/air base there ?
Yeah, there’s a Naval Airbase at Dabolim , it’s where the Mig – 29K’s will be based and (I think) where the Harriers are based. There are also Naval helicopters there.
By: HuntingHawk - 28th May 2005 at 18:38
maybe the US is short of rave parties, recreational drugs and washed up hippies ? 🙂 they are a threat to world stability and a danger to the american way of life :diablo:
Dude , Goa’s not all full of Rave parties, recreational drugs or washed up hippies 🙂 there are beautiful beaches and superb old style architectural buildings in the interior. The architecture reminds me of Kerala.
And talking of invading places, arent there more important places to invade, like maybe countries that actually support terrorism.
US and india fighting over goa??? one US carrier group will be sufficent to sink the entire indian navy.
The marines will certainly spearhead the attack,and they will take goa in 1 or 2 days(assuming its only a convential war) no need to call in the army.Indian army will be pulverised by airstrikes from the US carrier.
😀
By: bring_it_on - 28th May 2005 at 18:35
Quit wasting yur time Cat this is a useless discussion
By: Blackcat - 28th May 2005 at 17:04
It will be over before it begins. What a stupid thread!
Excellent one! 🙂
And thats what US knows better, always pick up a fight with those riding donkeys and with Ak-47s and not with those who have got the means to hurt back!
In addition to that wud be the bases from where the US will need to launch the strike, the only thing they can count on is Pakistan (highly unlikely), Bangladesh (also unlikely), Burma (also unlikely), SriLanka (not at all), Maldives & China (no way) …. then what else??? …. from the decks of the carrier (don forget to bring in a/c with more than 500nm range) and Deigo Gracia.
Rest assured!
By: SteveO - 28th May 2005 at 15:55
I don’t think either China or India proper can be invaded. Oh, the navy could be sunk and the air force eventually shot down. But actually holding onto an actively hostile Indian land would be impossible.
I agree, the US can probably take out any target presented to them, but when it comes to taking on hundreds of thousands of pissed off locals they are going to struggle unless they employ nuclear, biological and chemical weapons.
By: bring_it_on - 28th May 2005 at 15:47
people actually fall for these types of discussions…
By: RajKhalsa - 28th May 2005 at 14:37
Well, if we’re going to play the scenario serious, and assuming no nukes, America will establish air superiority. Can it hold Goa? Doubtfull. With a 1 million man army, 1.5 million paramilitary + reserves + God knows how many more millions police, territorial guards, civil defense groups, pissed off insurgents etc. India will push any invader off her heartland soil even if everyone sent were armed with a bamboo stick.
Look at Iraq, Vietnam, or Afghanistan. And multiply that by, oh, 50 thousand in terms of number of people. And mind you Indians are as fatalistically Nationalistic as Islamists or Communists are fundamentalist. 😀
I don’t think either China or India proper can be invaded. Oh, the navy could be sunk and the air force eventually shot down. But actually holding onto an actively hostile Indian land would be impossible.
By: hallo84 - 28th May 2005 at 06:40
US and india fighting over goa??? one US carrier group will be sufficent to sink the entire indian navy.
The marines will certainly spearhead the attack,and they will take goa in 1 or 2 days(assuming its only a convential war) no need to call in the army.Indian army will be pulverised by airstrikes from the US carrier.
I hope you don’t mean pulverised by a single carrier group…
It will definately take the whole of USN to concentrate their resources if the USAF is not involved as proposed by the author… Look at Iraq and you can see how long it takes the USN + USAF to pulverised them completely. It will take many times more time to crack Indian air defences…
Lets not forget that we are talking about two nuclear power here… Not that India has any proven nuclear threats to the US homeland but if a carrier group was ever caught in a nuke strike… then it would definately cost a lot of lives…
By: Indian1973 - 28th May 2005 at 05:37
maybe the US is short of rave parties, recreational drugs and washed up hippies ? 🙂 they are a threat to world stability and a danger to the american way of life :diablo:
By: Spectral - 27th May 2005 at 23:26
And why exactly Goa ?
Is there any naval/air base there ?
By: nastle - 27th May 2005 at 22:21
US and india fighting over goa??? one US carrier group will be sufficent to sink the entire indian navy.
The marines will certainly spearhead the attack,and they will take goa in 1 or 2 days(assuming its only a convential war) no need to call in the army.Indian army will be pulverised by airstrikes from the US carrier.
By: Golden_Arrow - 27th May 2005 at 21:56
It will be over before it begins. What a stupid thread!
By: SteveO - 27th May 2005 at 16:02
Thinking about it, the US would have to make a opposed amphibious landing against concealed and well prepared defences so the Indians could probably do alot of damage to any landing force, maybe even making a successful landing impossible?
By: ink - 27th May 2005 at 15:48
If you only have to avoid air attacks and can hide your forces that’s a good point, but if you have to meet your enemies in open battle it then comes down to who can look first, shoot first.
This is true – however there is a tendency on this forum and others for people to think that US tactics and weapons are infallible and will decimate all of the enemy’s targets within the openinng hours of a conflict. I tend to disagree. True that if forces are engaging in a conflict in which they have to come out in numbers they will, by definition, be more vulnerable. However, the US has only limited abilities in the number of weapons it can fire off and the number of sortie rates it can fly. And if you’re attacking forces in the field you’re not attacking their logistics and support structure – in Yugoslavia the US proved not to be able to do both effectively. India is a much harder nut to crack. Sure its the US would be victorious eventually, however, the fact is that it wouldn’t be a matter of hours or days before they could significantly degrade enemy capabilities – more like weeks or months (in my opinion).