Hello all
I recently aquired a very interesting relic and was wondering if anybody could help with its identification. It was labeled as being part of Bf109E-4 WNr 2803 of 9/JG51, which was shot down on the 15th September 1940 at Skinners Corner, Paddock Wood.
The relic, which is a piece of skinning measures approx 23 x 26cm. It has the remains of what could possibly be a unit emblem or insignia. However as it’s only a small section it’s difficult to tie it in with known designs. Also it has the stencilled number 3116 on the reverse, which if a serial number, would not make it from 2803.
If anyone has any theories or ideas or maybe recognises the piece, I would be very grateful.
many thanks in advance
By: ericmunk - 27th May 2015 at 13:08
IF 3116 is the Werknummer of the aircraft concerned, that would make it a Bf 109D-1 license-built by Fieseler Werke in Kassel.
By: hurri109 - 27th May 2015 at 10:59
Thanks for all the replies, much appreciated. Very interesting about the axe handle ID, it was one of the designs I was looking at as a possible match.
Cheers..
By: posart - 27th May 2015 at 09:59
I can’t say whether it’s genuine or not, but what I can see is the emblem of III/JG51 the curved brown line is the handle of the axe and the light grey is the axe head, the last photo is the correct way up.
By: FarlamAirframes - 27th May 2015 at 08:47
9th staffel of JG51 would have been a flying fish in a shield or a seahorse emblem.
By: smirky - 26th May 2015 at 23:32
well the attribution has been used on another part – and that was a fake
http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?121213-Alf-Bat-s-Relic-Art&highlight=alf+batt
By: hurri109 - 26th May 2015 at 22:59
Hi
It was actually given to me by a close friend and fellow collector who was also perplexed by the relic. He’d had it for a long time and couldn’t remember exactly who originally owned it. We discussed the number and design but were both left scratching our heads. I agreed to research relic for him, so it’s not a purchase from a dealer or eBay.
By: Whitley_Project - 26th May 2015 at 22:30
Can you say where you got it from? We might be able to tell you whether it’s likely to be genuine.
By: DanS333 - 26th May 2015 at 22:01
Hi Hurri109,
what about the scheme second from the top in this.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/b8/55/fb/b855fb9869b5693873cf610674986416.jpg
By: ian_ - 26th May 2015 at 20:25
Best not to trust labels. There are a number of people on eBay and elsewhere trawling the internet and battle of Britain/ blitz then and now to make up more attractive histories. Sad but true. Never ever ever buy a Zeppelin relic labeled ‘London museum of war’ or similar.
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