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BBC Global warming deceit

The BBC’s TV ‘flagship’ program, Africa, presented by the venerable David Attenborough, has been forced to issue a retraction regarding the program’s claim that climate change in the continent of Africa had produced a temperature increase of 3.5 degrees Celsius over the preceeding 20 years.

The BBC now admit that this was untrue, speculative and entirely without supporting evidence and the quote has been withdrawn.

One speculatively wonders how many of the other claims regarding climate change made by the BBC are equally spurious.

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By: John Green - 23rd February 2013 at 14:29

Oppama

Treat yourself. Read up on the subject and then tell me I’m wrong. Particularly that charitable and humanitarian organisation known as the Kempeitei.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 23rd February 2013 at 12:03

May I further solicit your help because of my admiration for your well constructed arguments, intelligent observations and ability to present them lucidly and grammatically, most of which, will go over the heads of some of the people attempting to contribute to this debate.

Perhaps he can help you to explain your comments in a previous thread ( your whole post was deleted by Admin – did you notice? ), where you referred to the people of Japan as “vermin”?

It’ll take some explaining.

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By: John Green - 23rd February 2013 at 11:21

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Grey Area

I sympathise ! I get the same urge trying to digest some of your scribblings.

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By: Grey Area - 23rd February 2013 at 11:01

Steven wh

I wonder whether you can help me? My problem is that I’m not at all suspicious of you or any suggested ‘agenda’ that you might have in connection with the ever present BBC ‘porkies’.

May I further solicit your help because of my admiration for your well constructed arguments, intelligent observations and ability to present them lucidly and grammatically, most of which, will go over the heads of some of the people attempting to contribute to this debate.

Keep going !

Someone pass the sick bucket, please…..

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By: Derekf - 23rd February 2013 at 10:46

You mean you’ve found someone who thinks like you do, a kindred spirit. Well, I guess it had to happen sooner or later.

Now, that ignore function…..

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By: John Green - 23rd February 2013 at 10:39

Steven wh

I wonder whether you can help me? My problem is that I’m not at all suspicious of you or any suggested ‘agenda’ that you might have in connection with the ever present BBC ‘porkies’.

May I further solicit your help because of my admiration for your well constructed arguments, intelligent observations and ability to present them lucidly and grammatically, most of which, will go over the heads of some of the people attempting to contribute to this debate.

Keep going !

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By: Grey Area - 23rd February 2013 at 10:09

Do they all have an agenda?

The sources that you quote have a political agenda in common, certainly. Or perhaps you thought no-one would notice?

You’ll find people of all shades of political opinion on here, Steven, some of whom can be quite eloquent and passionate in the way that they present their views and others who are less so.

But you won’t find many fools.

It might be useful to bear that in mind as you go forward.

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By: Derekf - 23rd February 2013 at 10:02

Do they all have an agenda?

Steven

A cursory glance through the list would suggest that yes, they do have an agenda.

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By: bazv - 23rd February 2013 at 05:49

The governments have a number of fingers in this pie. Green taxes can be applied to almost any activity, because just about everything we do uses energy, APD and the EU ETS for aviation come to mind. Huge sums of money are to be spent on ‘mitigation’ efforts, the UK figures are £18billion a year, for windturbines, solar, and subsidies; with many opportunities for consultancies and renewables directorships. There is the political righteousness of ‘saving the planet’ to look forward to, and the chance to strut your stuff on the world stage, with perhaps a chance at a Nobel prize. So we do not actually need to mitigate anything, just give the impression that all that tax and cash swirling around is doing something.
Steven

Nicely put Steven…the whole ‘Green’/’Climate Change’ thing has become a pantomime and the usual rip off to tax payers,as I said previously – our poxy little island has only a relatively small overall effect on the environment worldwide but you can bet your bottom dollar (actually you probably have already !) that we are up there in the top 5 for paying through the nose for the whole sorry circus :rolleyes:

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By: Lincoln 7 - 23rd February 2013 at 00:19

I would like to see proof that you have this ‘on’ and ‘off’ switch Jim…just because you tell us that you have the said switch – does not convince me it exists 😉

rgds baz

Pop round for a cuppa baz, should only take a few days to get you to learn how the damned thing works. :p 😉

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By: steven_wh - 23rd February 2013 at 00:13

Because I asked you to share your agenda with the rest of us.
You obviously have one because you’ve spent more time on this thread than any other single subject since you joined the forum–even the aviation bit.
My assertion (which you largely ignored), and then selectively answered was was that you have one.
As I said, care to share??

But back to the topic of BBC deceit. This has been commented upon widly from many sources over a period of time. A quick search reveals these links and concerns for BBC’s conduct.
http://www.thegwpf.org/bbc-david-attenborough-revealed-serial-climate-alarmists/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/8901365/The-BBCs-hidden-warmist-agenda-is-rapidly-unravelling.html
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100063937/why-the-bbc-cannot-be-trusted-on-climate-change-the-full-story/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1349506/Left-wing-bias-Its-written-BBCs-DNA-says-Peter-Sissons.html
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/365640/BBC-blasted-over-climate-change-bias
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2071358/BBCs-bias-global-warming-An-inconvenient-truth-climate-change.html
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/07/23/the-bbc-endeavours-to-provide-more-biased-coverage-on-climate-change/
http://www.spectator.co.uk/columnists/james-delingpole/8758121/heres-a-bbc-scandal-that-should-really-make-you-disgusted/
Do they all have an agenda?

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By: Grey Area - 23rd February 2013 at 00:01

No, they’re real all right. I’ve seen one.

There are these things called ‘books’, ‘going out’ and ‘conversation’ too, apparently.

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By: bazv - 22nd February 2013 at 23:03

I would like to see proof that you have this ‘on’ and ‘off’ switch Jim…just because you tell us that you have the said switch – does not convince me it exists 😉

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By: Lincoln 7 - 22nd February 2013 at 22:55

I have one of those new fangled gadgets on my radio and T.V. It’s called….an ON and OFF switch.:)

Jim.
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By: Derekf - 22nd February 2013 at 22:17

I’d like to see proof that the BBC receives complaints “far more than any other broadcasters.”
If it does, it’s probably because it is larger than the others.

The BBC isn’t perfect but I wonder how many other organizations would set up an inquiry to be so self-critical?

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By: Andy in Beds - 22nd February 2013 at 21:37

Just what has the number of posts, on this very good forum, got to do with the validity of the comments on the issue of BBC deceit on AGW?

Steven

Because I asked you to share your agenda with the rest of us.
You obviously have one because you’ve spent more time on this thread than any other single subject since you joined the forum–even the aviation bit.

My assertion (which you largely ignored), and then selectively answered was was that you have one.
As I said, care to share??

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By: steven_wh - 22nd February 2013 at 21:26

Here we go again. I don’t think I’ve misread anything…
I had a look at OFCOM as they receive complaints from all broadcasters and therefore it would a good comparison to see if the original point was valid. A quick glance at the last few weeks showed that since January only one BBC programme has had more than 10 complaints in a week. Other broadcasters had many more. Therefore, from a limited amount of data, the original point of steven_wh’s post appeared to be wrong.
You come along and tell us all that you personally have complained directly about the BBC on a number of occasions. Tell me how that fact fits into a comparison of complaints with other broadcasters?

OFCOM only covers actual programme material. There is much more to criticise BBC for outside of the programmes. This topic thread concerns what has been deliberately hidden by BBC.

Which broadcaster has been in the news the most over the past year? BBC has been making headlines, for all the wrong reasons, including the resignation of its DG. Criticism can come from many directions, even from its own senior employees, such as Jeremy Paxman. You do not need the formal channels of OFCOM to realise the extent of dissatisfaction with BBC.

Transcripts released from the Pollard report into the BBC’s Savile inquiry revealed Mr Paxman was strongly critical of how the BBC treated former Newsnight editor Peter Rippon, whom he described as “the fall guy”….
… In an email that appears among the Paxman transcripts, which are heavily redacted, Mr Paxman said it was “very unfair, and frankly not at all untypical, that the BBC has dumped all this on one individual [Rippon]. I think the BBC’s behaviour now is almost as contemptible was it was then.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/9888174/Jeremy-Paxman-condemns-contemptible-BBC-behaviour-over-Jimmy-Savile-investigation.html

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By: steven_wh - 22nd February 2013 at 20:43

Dear Steven.
I’m suspicious of you.
You turn up here with only 121 posts (not actually too much of an issue but an indicator I think) but you have a real axe to grind. The usual right wing suspects here appear to argue very regularly–as do the opposing leftists, but you’ve just popped up.
My suspicion is that you have an agends–care to share it..?
Ever been a young Conservative..?
Andy

Just what has the number of posts, on this very good forum, got to do with the validity of the comments on the issue of BBC deceit on AGW?

Steven

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By: Derekf - 22nd February 2013 at 20:21

Here we go again. I don’t think I’ve misread anything.

This was the original comment – unsupported by any sort of evidence.

Yes, a lot of people complain about BBC, far more than other broadcasters. What does that tell you about BBC?

I had a look at OFCOM as they receive complaints from all broadcasters and therefore it would a good comparison to see if the original point was valid. A quick glance at the last few weeks showed that since January only one BBC programme has had more than 10 complaints in a week. Other broadcasters had many more. Therefore, from a limited amount of data, the original point of steven_wh’s post appeared to be wrong.
You come along and tell us all that you personally have complained directly about the BBC on a number of occasions. Tell me how that fact fits into a comparison of complaints with other broadcasters?

It is indeed a typical retort – one based on fact.

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By: charliehunt - 22nd February 2013 at 19:58

Your ability to misread, misunderstand, read into comments what isn’t there is uncanny.

I make a courteous comment from which you can infer that the fact that a single programme has been complained about to OFCOM might well not be representative of the complaints received by the BBC.

In response one of your typical retorts. Bizarre.:confused:

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