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Bell 204 B Re-paint

The Italian owners of this newly overhauled Bell 204B are looking for paint scheme suggestions. Its completely out of my era of knowledge so I agreed with the owners to throw it open to this forum. Has anyone got any ideas/suggestions for a new scheme? Obviously Vietnam era is a candidate but the owners seem open minded although favour a period scheme.

Many thanks in advance 🙂

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By: Mark V - 14th July 2012 at 19:57

I (and “Good Vibs” ) pointed it out because the original poster may not know the difference between the various Bells…they’re NOT all the same.
As students of aviation history, I’m sure we all try all try to keep things as correct as possible, of course, the owner has the last word.

I can confirm that he has no clue! Wise words…

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By: J Boyle - 14th July 2012 at 13:19

Who cares? just because it has this engine or this tailboom does it matter? If i buy a red ferrari, but i want it in orange, will you run over and start berating me because its ‘not historically accurate?

their aircraft, their choice. as long as they are happy.

Of course people can do what they want, it’s just that many people here would be concerned if someone painted a Seafire F. 47 in BoB-period colors

Same here.
Perhaps even more important since the majority here don’t know as much about historic helicopters as former military airplanes.
I (and “Good Vibs” ) pointed it out because the original poster may not know the difference between the various Bells…they’re NOT all the same.
As students of aviation history, I’m sure we all try all try to keep things as correct as possible, of course, the owner has the last word.

BTW: I’m sure Ferrari will paint your car whatever colour you want it to be.
But some cars, the factory colour is noted on the vehicle’s dataplate…so expect comments from purists and points deductions at overly picky shows. 🙂

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By: pistonrob - 14th July 2012 at 08:43

i quite like it as it is actually. minimal markings give it a covert operations look of the CIA or Spooks.. you could imagine the “men in black” jumping out armed with Shades and Uzi machine guns :diablo:

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By: F-111buff26 - 14th July 2012 at 07:45

Who cares? just because it has this engine or this tailboom does it matter? If i buy a red ferrari, but i want it in orange, will you run over and start berating me because its ‘not historically accurate?

their aircraft, their choice. as long as they are happy.

personally a early RAN scheme looks good too

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By: Good Vibs - 13th July 2012 at 23:40

204 correct color scheme

Even though there are 100’s of interesting Vietnam color schemes I think this 204 is the wrong model!
From what I can see on the photo it looks like a GE engine (exhaust out right side), longer tail boom & probably 48 foot dia rotor blades, baggage comp in the tail boom.
Its better to stay with a historically correct scheme for a GE engined aircraft, ie Dutch, Italian, USAF, etc.

We all remember the films with Rambo’s Hinds (Puma’s) or the Gazelle with big red stars!

Lets keep it correct.

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By: Fatcivvy - 13th July 2012 at 22:18

How about this nice colourful example;

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Italy—Air/Agusta-AB-204B/1105151/L/&sid=ea68fb0c1910181ac369d7e4faeaed14

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By: Bograt - 13th July 2012 at 20:53

Film work…..?

http://www.air-america.net/aircraft.htm

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By: pagen01 - 13th July 2012 at 19:45

Be nice to see it an Italian air force finish, yellow stripe over camo scheme. the Vietnam finsish just seems a bit predictable.
Do we know the history of the airframe, might be possible to find pictures of it in service schemes?

Must say I do like the Kon Marine example above.

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By: FarlamAirframes - 13th July 2012 at 18:59

I like it! Where was that carried on the airframe Brian?

Steve the original artwork was from Vietnam and used on the instrument panel cover on the nose.

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By: pistonrob - 13th July 2012 at 18:56

personaly i would not follow the crowd on what has already been done and has been seen plenty of times on an airframe. there are a million colour schemes out there begging to be used on something else. it doesn`t matter what era either.

of course if its intended to be for bookings and airshows to make money etc then a sheep it must be. obviously not actualy a sheep coz that would be plain daft 😀

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By: J Boyle - 13th July 2012 at 18:15

If it were mine, I ‘d put the factory (either Bell or Agusta) civil scheme back on. More oppotunities for charter and film work.

As far as military, the Dutch Navy scheme is nice, as is the early Swedish army with the multi-green splinter camoflage.

For American, I like the pre-Vietnam gloss olive with full colour markings and national insignia…or the white & red arctic scheme with full insignia.

I can’t tell from the photo whether or not it has the side exhaust used on variants powered by the GE engine…that could severely limit schemes if you want to be correct.
That would mean no US Army schemes, but you could have USAF in 3-tone Vietnam camo or the early dark blue or later grey schemes on the USAF UH-1Fs used for missile site support and local base rescue.

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By: Mark V - 13th July 2012 at 17:10

This was one of my favourites.

I like it! Where was that carried on the airframe Brian?

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By: RetreatingBlade - 13th July 2012 at 17:06

Nice Iraqi cab but it’s a 205A1.

RB

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By: TonyT - 13th July 2012 at 14:36

http://www.fototime.com/9C1C6615CC1BEF9/orig.jpg

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By: FarlamAirframes - 13th July 2012 at 13:23

This was one of my favourites.

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By: Mark V - 13th July 2012 at 13:00

May I say thank you for these helpful (and quick!) responses 🙂 The links and photos are very interesting and Brian, I will check out that book! I will let the thread run for the rest of the day and then link it to the owners who can then provide some responses to the various options.

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By: Gerard - 13th July 2012 at 12:55

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/photos/middle/3/9/9/0248993.jpg

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By: FarlamAirframes - 13th July 2012 at 11:43

Some ideas for Nose Art here:

http://www.vhpamuseum.org/art/art.shtml

Steve I have a copy of Huey by Lou Drendel which is the reference book I have used for painting the small sections of Huey I had. It is dated 1983 but available in old book shops.

Let me know if you can’t find a copy and want to borrow it.

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By: JT442 - 13th July 2012 at 11:29

XH40 prototype: http://www.aviastar.org/foto/bell_204_1.jpg

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