Bell 47 Colour?

Quite so… I did say that my research was limited…. 😀

Shall we keep this thread for paint colours and the other for Civvi 47’s which don’t exist?….

The H model appears to have been the same as the G model, but manufactured under licence by Westlands.

I said this on the other thread, I’ll repeat it here…just trying to keep things straight.😀

I’m sure you know H-13 is the US military designation only and has no relevance to any Westland/Agusta aircraft or as a manufacturer model designation. Being designed as a civil aircraft, the military names and numbers came after the Bell model designation.

Bell never made a model named “H-13”.
All H-13s were variants of the Model 47 series and the US Army bought 47A/C/D/G which were operated as H-13A/B/C/D/E/G/H/S and T.

That makes is easier…
Pretty much as I described on the earlier post.

Also there was a large star & bar on bottom of the cabin with the star point pointing forward, rotor blade tips should be either green or red (for blade tracking) with a wider yellow band inboard.
Tail rotor should be from the tip 6″ red, 6″ white,6″ red, then black with another 6″ at the hub.
Fuel tank caps shuld be red, as should the tail rotor guard (though some are yellow ithe red bands)

For details on the “danger keep away” detail on fin, see the Corgi 1/48th model which has a representative color scheme (though the tail rotor guard is red/white as are the TR blades).

Interior sides of the cabin are the exterior cabin color, with grey floors and console sides. The facing of the panel would be black.

Here’s a link to a recent discussion on the Scale Rotors website. Someone posted some period B&W photos of D/Es undergoing armament trials, but you’ll get a good idea of the cabin colors.

http://www.scale-rotors.com/forum/topic/correct-colors-korea-era-h-13-and-incorrect-armament-system-revell-kit

BTW: the only external difference between a H-13D and E is the E had dual controls and three seats.

Again, if you’re doing if for a museum, let send me a PM and I’ll send you the email address for the curator at the Army Aviation Museum. He should be able to provide paint details from manuals.
If you’re going to do it, might as well do it right.

Thank’s for the reply(s) J, but it seems we have a G! 😎

No it isn’t. Its an H-13… a Sioux. Look at the curved lower portion of the fuselage which projects into the bubble, the large twin fuel tanks, the stabiliser on the tail boom, and the fully documented history of XT148.

A good comparison of the differences are here: http://www.bell47helicopterassociation.org/Bell%20article_1_Rev.%20210.pdf
The H model appears to have been the same as the G model, but manufactured under licence by Westlands.

Welcome to the lion’s den Tom… 😀

Aha! It seem’s that your correct… Think It’s time we got the website updated then lol.

Yeah, I can clearly see the differences on that pdf…

But on saying that… where has G-ASOL gone?!?! 🙁

Thomas.

Thanks for the reply!

It’s a Bell 47 D.

Thomas.

No it isn’t. Its an H-13… a Sioux. Look at the curved lower portion of the fuselage which projects into the bubble, the large twin fuel tanks, the stabiliser on the tail boom, and the fully documented history of XT148.

A good comparison of the differences are here: http://www.bell47helicopterassociation.org/Bell%20article_1_Rev.%20210.pdf
The H model appears to have been the same as the G model, but manufactured under licence by Westlands.

Welcome to the lion’s den Tom… 😀

That makes is easier…
Pretty much as I described on the earlier post.

Also there was a large star & bar on bottom of the cabin with the star point pointing forward, rotor blade tips should be either green or red (for blade tracking) with a wider yellow band inboard.
Tail rotor should be from the tip 6″ red, 6″ white,6″ red, then black with another 6″ at the hub.
Fuel tank caps shuld be red, as should the tail rotor guard (though some are yellow ithe red bands)

For details on the “danger keep away” detail on fin, see the Corgi 1/48th model which has a representative color scheme (though the tail rotor guard is red/white as are the TR blades).

Interior sides of the cabin are the exterior cabin color, with grey floors and console sides. The facing of the panel would be black.

Here’s a link to a recent discussion on the Scale Rotors website. Someone posted some period B&W photos of D/Es undergoing armament trials, but you’ll get a good idea of the cabin colors.

http://www.scale-rotors.com/forum/topic/correct-colors-korea-era-h-13-and-incorrect-armament-system-revell-kit

BTW: the only external difference between a H-13D and E is the E had dual controls and three seats.

Again, if you’re doing if for a museum, let send me a PM and I’ll send you the email address for the curator at the Army Aviation Museum. He should be able to provide paint details from manuals.
If you’re going to do it, might as well do it right.

Thanks for the reply!

It’s a Bell 47 D.

Thomas.

There were various colors for Army Bell 47s.
I don’t have the FS numbers for the paints…but briefly:
H-13D/E/Hs in the 50s-60s were usually in Gloss OD with white ARMY letters vertically on cabin side.
Rear of tail fin yellow with red warning stripe, small star & bars on forward fin.
Small stars and bars across the tops of each fuel tank.

OH-13S as used in Vietnam, flat green. Some had stars and bars on rear fin and fuel tanks, other didn’t. Likewise with black ARMY on cabin size. Some had the pre-Vietnam gloss colors, I have a photo in a book of one like tat wit ARMY horizontally in white on the cabin size.

TH-13Ts instrument trainers…Orange

also, a white and red arctic/scheme.

There are plenty of books about Army markings, so info shouldn’t be too hard to find.
If you’re restoring one, you might try the Army Aviation Museum at Fort Rucker. They’ve been helpful to me in the past.

The correct color scheme will depend in large part about what variant it is.

Simply put, a D/E/H shouldn’t be painted in Vietnam colors, and later model ships shouldn’t be painted as a MASH-era machine.

All 47s are not the same…a fact overlooked by museums and many owners when it comes to paint schemes.