Bermuda 2

Thats true but if an open skies agreement was reached the SNN stopover would be axed.
As for CO continuing SNN for the summer I d be almost sure they would because they are gettin good loads on all their Irish routes.

Thats true but if an open skies agreement was reached the SNN stopover would be axed.
As for CO continuing SNN for the summer I d be almost sure they would because they are gettin good loads on all their Irish routes.

Shannon has nothing to do with Open Skies, though. It’s a stipulation by the Irish Government to promote tourism to the West Coast.

Shannon has nothing to do with Open Skies, though. It’s a stipulation by the Irish Government to promote tourism to the West Coast.

I think if the Shannon stopover rule was axed, Shannon might just about keep CO in summer to EWR, 757 – tourists would probably keep it going

I think if the Shannon stopover rule was axed, Shannon might just about keep CO in summer to EWR, 757 – tourists would probably keep it going

I wasnt referring to bermuda 2 I was referring to European-US open skies overall.I dont thinki theres a lack of interest.Americans love coming here and numbers of Americans visting have been the highest this year since 9/11.AA used to fly here but dropped it when EI joined One World all EI transatalntic flights have AA codeshares.

I meant lack of interest from the carriers

I wasnt referring to bermuda 2 I was referring to European-US open skies overall.I dont thinki theres a lack of interest.Americans love coming here and numbers of Americans visting have been the highest this year since 9/11.AA used to fly here but dropped it when EI joined One World all EI transatalntic flights have AA codeshares.

I meant lack of interest from the carriers

I wasnt referring to bermuda 2 I was referring to European-US open skies overall.I dont thinki theres a lack of interest.Americans love coming here and numbers of Americans visting have been the highest this year since 9/11.AA used to fly here but dropped it when EI joined One World all EI transatalntic flights have AA codeshares.

I wasnt referring to bermuda 2 I was referring to European-US open skies overall.I dont thinki theres a lack of interest.Americans love coming here and numbers of Americans visting have been the highest this year since 9/11.AA used to fly here but dropped it when EI joined One World all EI transatalntic flights have AA codeshares.

Its about time that Europe-US had open skies becasue its not only LHR its effecting.
The growth of US carriers into ireland speciffically Dublin is extremley hampered.
At it is all airlines operating transatlantic services to Dublin must operate equal services into Shannon.
Airlines are now despretley trying to find ways around this with CO now operating seperate flight to DUB and SNN during the summer and EI setting up MCO as charter flights but as ar as I am aware those flight must stop in SNN on the way home.
If an open skies aggrement was reached it would benifit all airlines operating transatlantic serives from DUB hugely and would preobably attrat 1 or 2 ew airlines such as UA and AA.
However with the good there is always bad and the west of Ireland would be left stranted with no intercontinental flights.
But to be honest I dont even know why they have them.

bermuda2 has no direct bearing on Dublin. Bermuda2 governs the transatlantic traffic from LHR and LGW and who flies those routes.

Dublin is hampered by lack of interest.

Its about time that Europe-US had open skies becasue its not only LHR its effecting.
The growth of US carriers into ireland speciffically Dublin is extremley hampered.
At it is all airlines operating transatlantic services to Dublin must operate equal services into Shannon.
Airlines are now despretley trying to find ways around this with CO now operating seperate flight to DUB and SNN during the summer and EI setting up MCO as charter flights but as ar as I am aware those flight must stop in SNN on the way home.
If an open skies aggrement was reached it would benifit all airlines operating transatlantic serives from DUB hugely and would preobably attrat 1 or 2 ew airlines such as UA and AA.
However with the good there is always bad and the west of Ireland would be left stranted with no intercontinental flights.
But to be honest I dont even know why they have them.

bermuda2 has no direct bearing on Dublin. Bermuda2 governs the transatlantic traffic from LHR and LGW and who flies those routes.

Dublin is hampered by lack of interest.

Its about time that Europe-US had open skies becasue its not only LHR its effecting.
The growth of US carriers into ireland speciffically Dublin is extremley hampered.
At it is all airlines operating transatlantic services to Dublin must operate equal services into Shannon.
Airlines are now despretley trying to find ways around this with CO now operating seperate flight to DUB and SNN during the summer and EI setting up MCO as charter flights but as ar as I am aware those flight must stop in SNN on the way home.
If an open skies aggrement was reached it would benifit all airlines operating transatlantic serives from DUB hugely and would preobably attrat 1 or 2 ew airlines such as UA and AA.
However with the good there is always bad and the west of Ireland would be left stranted with no intercontinental flights.
But to be honest I dont even know why they have them.

Its about time that Europe-US had open skies becasue its not only LHR its effecting.
The growth of US carriers into ireland speciffically Dublin is extremley hampered.
At it is all airlines operating transatlantic services to Dublin must operate equal services into Shannon.
Airlines are now despretley trying to find ways around this with CO now operating seperate flight to DUB and SNN during the summer and EI setting up MCO as charter flights but as ar as I am aware those flight must stop in SNN on the way home.
If an open skies aggrement was reached it would benifit all airlines operating transatlantic serives from DUB hugely and would preobably attrat 1 or 2 ew airlines such as UA and AA.
However with the good there is always bad and the west of Ireland would be left stranted with no intercontinental flights.
But to be honest I dont even know why they have them.

True,

but if the anti-trust deal had went thru, then BA/AA would have code and revenue shared on the routes ex-LHR.
Currently only BA/AA North Atlantic flights out of the UK regions (GLA & MAN) are allowed to operate as code-share.

True,

but if the anti-trust deal had went thru, then BA/AA would have code and revenue shared on the routes ex-LHR.
Currently only BA/AA North Atlantic flights out of the UK regions (GLA & MAN) are allowed to operate as code-share.

BA and AA don’t codeshare on LHR ligts but do on connecting flights

e.g. AA put their code on LHR-EDI

BA and AA don’t codeshare on LHR ligts but do on connecting flights

e.g. AA put their code on LHR-EDI

LHR is Oneworld’s major European hub – despite the regulatory authorities not allowing BA/AA Anti-Trust immunity. Compare this with AF/KL/DL/CO/NW & LH/UA who all have a form of Anti-Trust immunity for their alliances ex AMS, CDG & FRA.

Believe the BA/AA Anti-trust deal fell through after complaints from the above carriers and thus the authorities imposed unrealisitic conditions on them.
If the deal had went thru, BA & AA may well have merged to become the world’s biggest and most dominant airline.

LHR is Oneworld’s major European hub – despite the regulatory authorities not allowing BA/AA Anti-Trust immunity. Compare this with AF/KL/DL/CO/NW & LH/UA who all have a form of Anti-Trust immunity for their alliances ex AMS, CDG & FRA.

Believe the BA/AA Anti-trust deal fell through after complaints from the above carriers and thus the authorities imposed unrealisitic conditions on them.
If the deal had went thru, BA & AA may well have merged to become the world’s biggest and most dominant airline.