Bernie Salter Lancaster Cockpit(old thread 2005)

[ATTACH]191772[/ATTACH] Taken about 1993…have lots of photos of it somewhere ,will post them when I find them.

Does anyone still have any pictures of this one? I’ve read loads about it but haven’t actually seen it……..

Elliot, I “PMed” you. Hope this is the good company. BW Roger

The German movie company that is at the moment using a S58 for a film on the Hamburg floods will continue with a film on the Dresden bombartment. Looks like they are most probably the ones interested in the cockpit. If they are , they also have another use for it as the project after the Dresden movie will be a movie on the Berlin Airlift, so they might use it as a Lancastrian cockpit too. BW Roger

The problem with tenders is that nobody has any idea what the film company has bid so it could just win it anyway if their bid is the highest.
It’s not a matter of desperately trying to stop it being destroyed -rather a case of desperately wondering what they bid!

Yes a ball park would be an idea – Elliot can you PM me with a rough guide – so i know if its at least feasible….?

Wasn’t there a nose section with turret as well? Sad if it has to move on, but I’m sure that there will be a museum that could take it on. Provided of course that the financial side can be arranged to the satisfaction of both parties 😉

I guess I missed the story about the project having to move on, could someone enlighten me?

Hi MOTF

PM sent.

Can anyone quote an asking price (via PM or otherwise)

Spot on webpilot

I think the most of the fuselage frames are wood, covered with an aluminium skinning. The canopy and most of the fittings, AISTR, are largely original parts.

Maybe.

I would love it if it went to a small museum. We have a few weeks at least before everything is finalised – fingers crossed.

Perhaps a small museum would appreciate it as a walk through exhibit or something? Would certainly be an attraction.

Hi Bruce

We considered the ebay route but the owners feel it is a little unpredictable and prefer it to be sold through a tender system we control. They are also understandably very reluctant for it to be split which would bring in around 25-50% extra and may/may not make selling easier.

Bung it on Ebay like the last load of stuff. If an instrument panel can fetch 10,300, then this has got to have a Market?

Hi everyone

Thanks for all your kind words. Here is a description of the cockpit which I hope may answer many of your questions.

Lancaster cockpit section which is from former 6 ( just behind W/OP) to
former E (Main pilots panel) The structure is constructed from wooden formers clad in Aluminium, mounted on a wooden base which is covered in Aluminium. The whole unit is mounted on a bomb trolley. There was a comprehensive article on the project in Flypast many years ago.

Internally there is an accurate bakelite Main pilots instrument panel
fully equipped with all instrumentation
The Blind Flying panel is an Original
The throttle Quadrant is original but has been substantially repaired
The control Column is a replica and the Yoke is also a studio replica.
The Seat is Original
Trim Unit is Post war lancaster/Shackleton
H2S 162(C) indicator and switch unit both complete and fitted on an
original cage mounting EX RCAF complete
Fishpond complete
Gee Receiver complete
Gee indicator complete
Control panel type 3
Astro Sight in box complete
Flight engineers panel replica complete, wired and working
Air Mileage unit and flexible cable complete working
DF Loop Complete and working
Drift Sight
Flight Engineers seat studio Replica
Canopy front metal frame is original minus armoured screens ( 2 Left hand
ones included) rear frame studio made
Fuse Box replica all original plugs and sockets mostly wired and working
1154 complete
1155 complete and working
Morse key wired and working
J Switch
Resistance unit
2 Power supplies
Rudder pedals enough parts to make a complete twin set
George complete
2 Air Dryers
Escape Hatch replica
Astrodome original
Master compass complete and wired. correctly wired to make all other
instruments in circuit work correctly
Lighting wired and working
W/Op Seat complete and original EX RCAF
all relevant plugs sockets resistance units wiring connectors
throughout

Yes Cees – I am sitting in the second pilots position! It’s okay – I wasn’t about to take off 😉

OMG who would possibly think of blowing anything of that quality up?! That’s insane! Yes, by all means make the phone lines hum and call every museum that you can, it deserves a nice home!

OMG who would possibly think of blowing anything of that quality up?! That’s insane! Yes, by all means make the phone lines hum and call every museum that you can, it deserves a nice home!

Which is which? As in, what parts are wood, what parts are aluminium?

Untrained eye 😉

I think the most of the fuselage frames are wood, covered with an aluminium skinning. The canopy and most of the fittings, AISTR, are largely original parts.

Maybe.

I have had lots of messages from people asking to see some pics of the cockpit section – these were taken on Saturday. Hope they are interesting.

At the moment its future is bleak – the only serious offer is from a German film company that intends to blow it up as part of an anti-RAF film. Obviously I am working hard to see this doesn’t happen – it seems insane in this day and age.

You have an exhibit to be proud of, don’t rush nto anything.
Unfortunatly,Mrs Finest would kick me out if I even thought of having it :diablo: , mind you, Finest juniors would be in 7th heaven, they just love Avro’s finest and can’t get enough of the bomber.
Good luck with the sale.

It isnt genuine; it is a wood and aluminium mock up, though it is a good one. Nevertheless, it should go somewhere where it will be appreciated.

Bruce

Which is which? As in, what parts are wood, what parts are aluminium?

Untrained eye 😉

Can anyone quote an asking price (via PM or otherwise)

We can take it of your hands as we have a brand new display room for 2005 !!!!

BLOW IT UP,BLOW IT UP 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 ,Oh i wish i could win the lottery next weekend, 😡
Bloody heathens 😡 😡 😡

Have I missed something here, what’s the story behind the disposal or otherwise of this cockpit?