Beyond Saving?

*******s!!! but at lest they are being sacrificed for a good cause ,the fire crew do play a very very important role in aviation

Hi all,

Just to let you know the PR.7 at Wyton is now housing baked beans. The scrappie did his dastardly deeds last year.:(

Richy.

I’m told it’s been completely stripped and is now basically a shell.

Just to throw in a leg-break (that’s like a curveball, for those across the pond), while you are worrying about Phantoms and the like there is a Hunter at the fire brigade training school at Moreton-in-the-Marsh. Looks very forlorn, with no nosewheel.

Just thought you’d like to knowe.

Adrian

The aircraft are still there and fullfill a role in the training of firemen. It’s not accesssable readily for photography.

Has anyone been to Manston recently? Are these aircraft still there? Is the fire dump accessable for photography?

Shame her cockpit is gutted but like you say hopefully she finds a good home!

We have a good home for it but not the funding required to move a Bucc, anyone want to take me up on the offer? We are more than able to dismantle and transport it, but the costs involved are high and you could see little change from five figures 🙁

I think you’ll find the plane at the dump is a ‘J’ check the exhaust not spey J79, and the antenna on the air intake says this is an ex us navy ‘J’ and the anti collision strip is a big give away, would be good to keep though, is the phantom on the falklands a ‘J’.

curlyboy

Sorry, brain not in gear. I thought the discussion was about the Brampton one. *Goes back to sleep again*

Charley – I should say that there would be little need to bury anything if you could set fire to it instead. The local scrap merchants probably did a good trade out of Manston.

I went to Manston there with a Holts tour in 1984. We watched a fire-dump demo at which (I think) they burnt a Shackleton. I thought little of it at the time as there were still Shacks in service but now it is a rather painful memory. I have some pics of it somewhere and will try to post them on the site. I’m sure there was more on the dump then. What interests me more is what WW2 items have been dumped or buried at Manston. It must have handled examples of every type of plane in the ETO, both Allied and Axis.

Shame her cockpit is gutted but like you say hopefully she finds a good home!

There is incredibly little chance of her (the Bucc) being set fire to. The guidelines in place now seem to be against burning aircraft because of the toxic effects of the plastics contained within.

From W&R 18:

RAF Woodvale, Gate guard Phantom FGR2 XV468 was scrapped on 16th July 2001.

Plazz

I can probably guess 🙁 but whatever happened to RAF Woodvale’s Phantom, and, if the inevitable did happen, when did it happen? 🙁

Shame the other F4J was scrapped.
Yes you’re of course right David; the burnt out Phantom is FGR2 XV411

Surely that Bucc deserves a better fate than this!!!

Peter, the Buccaneer is nothing more than a shell. It has been totally gutted, the engines are long gone and the canopy is left open at all times now, its primary function being aircrew extraction training. The airframe overall is in really good shape with very little corrosion, it would make a very good static display aircraft. Lets hope in the future that she will be offered for tender as opposed to being set fire to!

Plazz

Plazz – there are two Phantoms at Manston . The burnt one is a FGR.2 and the other a ‘J’. The other ‘J’ you mention was scrapped about two or so years ago.

The Phantom at Manston is F4J ZE360.
According to W&R 19 there is another F4J (ZE353) at Manston, although I never saw it during my visit.

Brampton has Phantom FGR2 XT914 on gate guard duties and was still in good condition when I took these photos back in April this year.

Plazz

J or not a J

I think you’ll find the plane at the dump is a ‘J’ check the exhaust not spey J79, and the antenna on the air intake says this is an ex us navy ‘J’ and the anti collision strip is a big give away, would be good to keep though, is the phantom on the falklands a ‘J’.

curlyboy

ok so brampton has a phantom but that phantom is an F4J i think the last one in Raf colours ( i know about the one in the aam was one but they spayed it into us navy colours) Would that be worth saving?

No, it’s not a -J, check the top of the fin for the blade ECM aerial.

ok so brampton has a phantom but that phantom is an F4J i think the last one in Raf colours ( i know about the one in the aam was one but they spayed it into us navy colours) Would that be worth saving?