May 20, 2005 at 9:35 am
Just found over at WIX
Bf-109E takes to the air, piloted by Walter Eichhorn
http://www.t6-team.de/filme/bf109e.wmv
Enjoy Martin
By: Firebird - 21st May 2005 at 16:59
Doesn’t that DB601 sound so sweet……… π
By: Rlangham - 21st May 2005 at 16:35
Can’t wait until that Breighton Merlin 109 is finished π too bad it isn’t a real 109, together with a spit or hurricane would make one heck of a display
By: T J Johansen - 21st May 2005 at 13:30
Thanks Mike J for the note, wish Duxford would get an operational ME-109 again. I remember the great air display back in a few years ago, seeing my frist look at Black Six flying at Duxford on a October day beside a Spitfire. Needless to say it was a thrill
to hear that Damler-Benze engine along side the Merlin.
BlueNoser352!
What’s the story on Craig Charleston and the F model he supposedly was rebuilding to flying condition? Will it stay in the UK?
T J
By: Rob Beard - 21st May 2005 at 12:18
SMOKE
Lovely to see. I noticed a faint smoke trail emanating from the exhausts. Was this normal?
Most inline piston engines are installed upright (SPITS, P51 etc,etc. Mondeos and Fiestas). Alot of Messersmidts had inverted engines, (upside down if you like).
Car engine pistons are splash lubricated, the splash is caused by the crankshaft rotaing and splashing in the sump, the bottom ring on a piston is called an oil ring. these are two very thin piston rings in the same groove but with a zig zag type of ring sandwiched in between them, this zig zag drags oil up from the splash and drags the lubricant back into the bore next time the piston goes back up, this is on all cycles, induction, compression, ignition and exhaust stroke.
The oil has to got to get to the compression ring, which is the top ring for obvious reasons.
I do not know properley how the top end of an aero engine is lubricated, but it has to be force fed the same as a Formula 1 engine (they do not have a sump, but a tank and high pressure pump).
If an engine is inverted the oil which lubricates the compression ring (Top RING) will pass that ring and stay there for 3 strokes nxt time that piston fires it will also burn the excess oil off, hence the black smoke.
If you notice for EG, when Sally B starts up, the ground crew turn the props by hand, the reason for this is, when the engines are stationary excess oil drops into all the bottom cylinders. When the ground crew rotate the engines they are in actual fact opening the inlet and exhaust valve to rid the bores of excess oil, if this is not done the engine can either start backwards or can hydraulic and could bend con rods or even break a crankshaft, the smoke emitted on start up is the oil that is in the exhaust and the remnants of oil in the inlet manifols which will be sucked back into the engine on start up and burnt off, hope this has answered you ?
ROB
By: Fluffy - 20th May 2005 at 20:05
It was on ours, as the shroud concentrated the exhaust to make it more noticeable on that side
By: italian harvard - 20th May 2005 at 19:48
The smoke trail is caused by an exhaust shroud fitted over the port exhaust stubs to prevent the gases going into the supercharger intake. If you look at the video of Black 6 it only comes from the port side
I’ve seen the german 109 videos and the smoke trails come from both sides..
Are u sure this is the real reason why?
Alex
By: Fluffy - 20th May 2005 at 19:40
The smoke trail is caused by an exhaust shroud fitted over the port exhaust stubs to prevent the gases going into the supercharger intake. If you look at the video of Black 6 it only comes from the port side
By: italian harvard - 20th May 2005 at 17:35
er..will it be at u know where? :D:D:D:D
Alex
By: trumper - 20th May 2005 at 16:54
Sounded like a merlin to me :dev2:
By: jagdtiger - 20th May 2005 at 14:58
How about this then!!!!!
Thanks Mike J for the note, wish Duxford would get an operational ME-109 again. I remember the great air display back in a few years ago, seeing my frist look at Black Six flying at Duxford on a October day beside a Spitfire. Needless to say it was a thrill
to hear that Damler-Benze engine along side the Merlin. Still hoping to one day see an operational Mossie at Duxford, what a shame one is not flying these days! Thanks again !BlueNoser352!
even better
enjoy
Cheers
JT
By: Swiss Mustangs - 20th May 2005 at 11:47
I quote Avro’s Finest from the other (La FertΓ© Video) thread:
The black smoke is caused by a rich mixture at high RPM to prevent detonation
Martin
By: DazDaMan - 20th May 2005 at 11:44
Not sure of the right answer to the Me109 smoketrail, but sometimes during combat, if a ‘109 was attacked and the pilot pushed open the throttle to dive away, smoke would sometimes come from the exhausts, leading the attacking pilot to believe he had a kill.
By: Stieglitz - 20th May 2005 at 11:04
Nice video! Thanks for the link
Lovely to see. I noticed a faint smoke trail emanating from the exhausts. Was this normal?
The Me109 which gave a display at la ferte had the same faint smoke trail. If I look at my videos of black 6, I can also see the trail so It should be normal for the Me109.
Stieglitz
By: Eric Mc - 20th May 2005 at 10:55
Lovely to see. I noticed a faint smoke trail emanating from the exhausts. Was this normal?
By: BlueNoser352 - 20th May 2005 at 09:53
Thanks Mike J for the note, wish Duxford would get an operational ME-109 again. I remember the great air display back in a few years ago, seeing my frist look at Black Six flying at Duxford on a October day beside a Spitfire. Needless to say it was a thrill
to hear that Damler-Benze engine along side the Merlin. Still hoping to one day see an operational Mossie at Duxford, what a shame one is not flying these days! Thanks again !
BlueNoser352!
By: AT-6 - 20th May 2005 at 09:52
I had posted it already here:
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?p=663120#post663120
By: DazDaMan - 20th May 2005 at 09:51
Quality π
By: BlueNoser352 - 20th May 2005 at 09:40
Wow….pretty impressive !
Thanks for posting that Martin, where in the USA will this ME-109 be based? Hope to catch it on the air show circuit !
BlueNoser352!