Bf-109Z.

From my experience with Amodel kits, you’ll need buckets of patience and a little luck Bert!

haha, you’re right! The stuff looks like made out of melted plastic waste or something. You can actually see how the plastic entered the mould and how it filled up.
But it’s nice to have a modelling challenge. Any pic of your results?

From my experience with Amodel kits, you’ll need buckets of patience and a little luck Bert!

Thanks you all for interesting thread. Pity it never flew, but i’ll build the thing on scale anyway 🙂

See what I mean? Internet says proto destroyed, others say not even mockup built. Sure. Distiller, keep it pouring. It’s a fascinating subject.

Well, as I said my sources were internet-based (as I have no ‘109 books at work! ;)), but I wasn’t sure myself to say a definite yay or nay on the subject 😮

See what I mean? Internet says proto destroyed, others say not even mockup built. Sure. Distiller, keep it pouring. It’s a fascinating subject.

Ok. The reason behind the “Z” project was the failure of the Me210. They were looking for a destroyer. One rivaling project became the Do335.

The Me109Z was a proposal by Director Karl Lindner, who was head of the Messerschmitt works at Regensburg. The RLM gave no orders to further the idea and not even a V-aircraft was built.
Some data: MTOW would have been about 6500kg, Vmax about 750km/h, span 13.3m, armament up to five MK108 or 2000kg bombs.
The same idea was applied to the Me309 (which was flying as a V-aircraft then): MTOW 10000kg, span 16m, Vmax 760kmh, 2x MK103, 2x MK103, up to 2000kg bombs.

Data and scans from the book “Willy Messerschmitt – Pionier der Luftfahrt und des Leichtbaues” from the series “Die deutsche Luftfahrt”, Bernard&Graefe Verlag.

And in the Novarra series of books it says very clearly “not gone beyond a paper design”. Two Klemms were “Z-ed”, but no 109s.

Maybe with the destroyed prototype you mean the BV155 project?

Bert

Yes I understand, but then again what is posted here may well be 75% crap also. The information needs to be backed up by ‘proven’ sources that should be noted , and not taken at face value…where is the info coming from…..the Internet ? 😉

Dave

See what I mean? Internet says proto destroyed, others say not even mockup built. Sure. Distiller, keep it pouring. It’s a fascinating subject.

No, never flown, not even a mockup built. Was a project in winter of 1942. Various versions with and without central weapons-turret studied. Also thought about using the Me309 as basis. Want to know more?

Type ‘Bf-109 Zwilling’ into Google.

Dave

I know I can Google Dave, but then I would never get the in depth info and ever intriguing synergy of similar oriented aviation buffs milling their minds over such questions. 😉

Google is usually only one noselength deep insight, and internet is 75% full of crap anyway.

This from http://www.messerschmitt-bf109.de/projekte.php:

The development of a single-seat Zwillings-Bf109 began end of 1942. This should be used as destroyers or high-speed bombers. It accomplished in addition preliminary tests with two wedge Kl25, which one had intercoupled. These attempts ran that the project were satisfyingly in such a way continued. Two Bf109 G should be used for the “twin”.

I’m not sure, but I think a prototype was built and possibly flown, or at least being worked on, when it was destroyed in a bombing raid. Mind you, there were a number of Messerschmitt projects around that could fall into that category! 😀

Type ‘Bf-109 Zwilling’ into Google.

Dave