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Birds looping the loop, Why dont they??

Didnt know where to plonk this question but seeming as we looked to to birds to inspire us to fly i thought i would stick it in historic 😉

Today i saw a Crow heading for a main road from across a field the other side of a hedge. At the last minute the crow pulled up and executed an excellent half roll with a roll out wings level at the top to head the way it just came… ive watched Buzzards do perfect Bunts at the top of a climb with wings tucked back and hurtle downwards again quite often..

In all the years of being in the countryside ive seen birds do many manouvers but never a loop de loop?… Do other animals emulate flight in the way we emulated the birds??

I know its an unusual question for an aviation forum but who knows what budding twitchers we have out there?..

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By: hampden98 - 4th January 2013 at 15:12

I saw a very strange thing while waiting at Blackwater for my train a few weeks ago.
A 5 bird formation of Cormorants in a very untidy V formation. Suddenly the lead bird pulled stright up, with the untidy formation following in the climb. They then all stalled out, recovered and were in perfect V formation! 😮
Not sure if this is just a random birdy thing, or a way to tidy their formation but it looked kind of neat.
I’ve also seen a 7 bird Cormorant echelon in a perfect `missing bird` formation. 🙂

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By: Bager1968 - 2nd January 2013 at 23:52

I prefer Ludwig von Wolfgang Vulture!

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By: kev35 - 2nd January 2013 at 20:44

There’s a pretty good book that covers questions like this. Jonathan Livingston Seagull (Richard Bach)…

Seconded.

He wrote some other damned good books too.

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By: pistonrob - 2nd January 2013 at 20:28

Perhaps birds dont need to do it becouse there is no real reason to in nature. It would be a waste of energy i suppose. Or is it becouse they cant do physicaly due to the homing instinct built deep within. Something like a mental gyroscope keeping them the right way up???.

Ref France. Im in the early stages of planning for the 7th – 15th April. Been recommended to a campsite in Luc Sur Mer which is about 100 yards from Juno beach. Right in the middle of it all. Must remember to pack my string vest n knotted hanky for my noggin 😀

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By: Moggy C - 2nd January 2013 at 19:22

Loop de loop Moggy, Have been getting in the swing for my D`Day trip in April and just been practicing my rubbish French so must have gone Gaelic for a moment or two

The manoeuvre is simply called a loop 😡

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ9ogFEQrHk

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By: Mark12 - 2nd January 2013 at 19:15

Ah…but they do aerobat.

Here is a Lilac Breasted Roller I captured on my trip last October.

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/Mark12/RollerBotswanaOvtober2012_zps95ec6d1e.jpg

Rollers

Order Coraciiformes Family Coraciidae

The rollers get their name from the aerial acrobatics some of these birds perform during courtship or territorial flights. They reside in warm climates of the Old World. Rollers resemble crows in size and build, and share the colourful appearance of kingfishers and bee-eaters, blues and pinkish or cinnamon browns predominating. The two inner front toes are connected, but not the outer one. They are mainly insect eaters. Rollers nest in an unlined hole in a tree or in masonry. [abstracted from Wikipedia]

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By: ericmunk - 2nd January 2013 at 18:53

There’s a pretty good book that covers questions like this. Jonathan Livingston Seagull (Richard Bach)…

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By: pistonrob - 2nd January 2013 at 18:40

Just been watching pigeons falling around the sky in an erratic way but no real loops as such.

Loop de loop Moggy, Have been getting in the swing for my D`Day trip in April and just been practicing my rubbish French so must have gone Gaelic for a moment or two :rolleyes:

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By: Moggy C - 2nd January 2013 at 18:29

What the hell is a ‘loop de loop’ ? :confused:

Tumblers and Rollers (pigeons) do sort of flick loops, one inside and one outside, but I can’t recall which is which.

Lapwings seem to do some pretty neat aeros, I think I have seen them loop, or at worst a half cuban or roll off the top.

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By: pistonrob - 2nd January 2013 at 18:01

Ha ha they sound like bodily functions rather than birds. I will look them up 😉

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By: nostalgair2 - 2nd January 2013 at 17:57

Bird loops

Have you ever soon a tumbler pigeon? or a tippler? perhaps theres something on gergle or you tube? You may then think differently.

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