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By: Tillerman - 24th January 2008 at 13:51

Don’t forget this preserved workhorse:

http://www.flugzeugbilder.de/show.php?id=45455

The Russians seem to have a more artistic way of mounting planes (and missiles and rockets), so that they look like they are flying or taking off.

I’ve seen other posts of them but sorry can’t supply any links right now.

Just putting a plane on a couple of sticks doesn’t look too good!

Bri 😎

I agree with you on the artistic element. They go to great lengths to fabricate a nice plinth, and sometimes completely over the top.
Browse this site for birds on poles in Russia:

http://www.aviamonuments.ru/

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By: RPSmith - 24th January 2008 at 08:09

Nice one Strega – welcome to the forum 🙂

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By: Arabella-Cox - 24th January 2008 at 01:18

First Post 😀 Austin Tx. Military Museum 12/21/07

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By: pagen01 - 23rd January 2008 at 09:09

Right, so the Canadians like stuffing aeroplanes on poles!:D

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By: contrailjj - 23rd January 2008 at 04:52

At one time Zwick’s Island was a landfill. I’m not sure about the area immediately surrounding the Sabre, but there have been issues with methane gas. The concrete piers supporting the lights on the nearby soccer fields have taken on a rusty colour.

Could this possibly be accelerating the corrosion?

As a quick side-note – my only previous visit to the Belleville Sabre was almost 30 years ago, and I seem to remember it used to face the opposite direction.

As for the ferrous oxide on the plinth (I’d not realize that had been a landfill) – 2 more potential answers… (now I’m no expert, but I had a client who worked exclusively in concrete, and I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express a couple times 😉 ).

Potential 1: I’ve noticed a fairly high ferrous content in the rock structure in the area west of Brockville (toward the Bay of Quinte) and this ‘rust’ may simply be symptomatic of concrete product made by a particular local manufacturer (dependent upon their source of raw materials)

Potential 2: Galvanic corrosion. The mounting plates for most (if not all) these aircraft are steel, and once in contact with a different metal, the ‘magic’ begins. Precipitation will obviously exacerbate the situation. The corroded areas I noted on the airframe itself (noticeably Aluminum Oxide) are not next to the plinth and I believe may be primarily due to pooling/slowly draining moisture.

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By: turretboy - 23rd January 2008 at 00:16

At one time Zwick’s Island was a landfill. I’m not sure about the area immediately surrounding the Sabre, but there have been issues with methane gas. The concrete piers supporting the lights on the nearby soccer fields have taken on a rusty colour.

Could this possibly be accelerating the corrosion?

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By: Peter - 22nd January 2008 at 20:06

what a nice clean looking t-bird! Even has seats installed!!

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By: bri - 22nd January 2008 at 19:58

The Russians seem to have a more artistic way of mounting planes (and missiles and rockets), so that they look like they are flying or taking off.

I’ve seen other posts of them but sorry can’t supply any links right now.

Just putting a plane on a couple of sticks doesn’t look too good!

Bri 😎

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By: contrailjj - 22nd January 2008 at 17:39

Was the F86 in belleviile repainted recently?? Also the one at Brockville needs to have that tree cut back

As Mike pointed out, the Belleville Sabre was indeed refurb’d 20 years ago – she’s just not holding up well – specially the sign-vinyl markings. Additionally the canopy is crazed and there’s a significant amount of corrosion on the underside of the fuselage near the empennage break. (But the landing lights still have bulbs in them.)

We’re lucky to still have the Sabre on the Brockville waterfront. When the problem with mounting plate was discovered, debate was raised on whether or not to move it to the Brockville airport (where really no one would see it).

Here’s another one ‘nearby’… CT-133 Silver Star at the Royal Canadian Air Force Association mess in Cornwall, ON.

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By: turretboy - 22nd January 2008 at 16:40

That’s the bird!

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By: contrailjj - 22nd January 2008 at 16:19

The Sabre at Zwick’s Island in Belleville was repainted late 80’s or early 90’s. I’m not sure what work has been done since.

As in Centennial Park (off Bay Bridge Rd.)? If thats the bird I posted, she doesn’t look like she’s seen a touch of care in decades… but yes, she was refurb’d in ’87 (a couple more detail shots attached.)

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By: CSheppardholedi - 22nd January 2008 at 15:46

Here is my contribution. 1-Blue Angel at rest stop on the interstate I-10 rest stop Pensacola, FL.

2-USN Aviation Museum Pensacola
3-Bodo Air Museum Norway

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By: turretboy - 22nd January 2008 at 15:27

The Sabre at Zwick’s Island in Belleville was repainted late 80’s or early 90’s. I’m not sure what work has been done since.

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By: Scorpion89 - 22nd January 2008 at 15:06

And lets not forget the DC-3 wind tee up north…Yellowknife if I recall correctly?

Yep I have a photo of it someplace I’ll see if I can dig it out and post it.

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By: Peter - 22nd January 2008 at 14:51

Was the F86 in belleviile repainted recently?? Also the one at Brockville needs to have that tree cut back

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By: J Boyle - 22nd January 2008 at 04:39

Is the Norseman on the pole the real thing…or at least metalized?
I wouldn’t think a fabric fuselage would last long exposed like that.
They’re fairly rare now…please tell me it’s a fiberglass model….

And lets not forget the DC-3 wind tee up north…Yellowknife if I recall correctly?

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By: contrailjj - 22nd January 2008 at 03:33

Sabres anyone??

A couple original RCAF Golden Hawks Sabres I shot this past August.
First in Belleville, Ontario – she’s as original as the day she went on the post in ’67 (and looking really the worst for wear)
Second on the Waterfront at Brockville, Ontario… this one was somewhat recently ‘fixed-up’ – primarily due to the fact that the mount had corroded and she was beginning to ‘weathercock’ on her plinth.

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By: dogsbody - 21st January 2008 at 23:32

The CF-100 pic was taken in 2004. It was pretty shiney then, but I couldn’t get a good shot of it because the sun wasn’t in a good position.

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By: Papa Lima - 21st January 2008 at 21:29

Aha! Look at this, taken inside the Museum workshop on 7 August 2004!
The very same Noorduyn Norseman!

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By: Peter - 21st January 2008 at 21:22

Here are a few, taken from my own collection of photos.

The first four images were taken at the Alberta Aviation Museum in Edmonton Alberta, Canada.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l23/chris7421/NewImage.jpg

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l23/chris7421/NewImage3.jpg

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l23/chris7421/NewImage1.jpg

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l23/chris7421/NewImage2.jpg

This last one was taken at the Nanton Lancaster Museum, at Nanton Alberta, Canada

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l23/chris7421/NewImage4.jpg

Ah Look at that awesome looking CF101!! The cf100 at Nanton has been polished since this pic was taken Darrell.

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