August 23, 2005 at 11:25 pm
By: Hatton - 26th August 2005 at 18:29
It’ll end in tears . . .
of laughter?
Would you buy even a car off ebay with a description as brief as that? ‘Won’t fly’…..understatement of the year.
Lets see which shrewd investor buys it this time.
By: Melvyn Hiscock - 26th August 2005 at 18:21
It’ll end in tears . . .
Y’know I am sure I have said that before.
By: A225HVY - 26th August 2005 at 18:13
It’s back on ebay again!!!!!!!
A225HVY
By: dhfan - 24th August 2005 at 20:16
I would imagine that in this day and age to scrap the Vulcan the owner would probably have to pay the scrap man to remove it unless you could have it dissassembled and moved to his yard.
Used to get £30 for a scrap car. Now you have to pay them £30 to take it.
:confused: :confused: :confused:
It’s changed back again. I’ve been out of the ali business for 14 years so I’ve no idea of current scrap prices but certainly the price of scrap steel has risen sharply owing to increased demand.
By: XL391 - 24th August 2005 at 19:41
how LONG it would take to scrap – bear in mind that the aircraft would still be accruing fees whilst the process was being completed.
XJ825 was ‘dismantled’ at Waddington in 2 hours…
By: Merlin3945 - 24th August 2005 at 17:44
surely the best thing to have done, besides not buying it in the first place, would have least been to recoup a little through scrapping it?
I would imagine that in this day and age to scrap the Vulcan the owner would probably have to pay the scrap man to remove it unless you could have it dissassembled and moved to his yard.
Used to get £30 for a scrap car. Now you have to pay them £30 to take it.
:confused: :confused: :confused:
By: Hatton - 24th August 2005 at 14:49
I imagine the only party that actually profits will be the airport – the principal loser being the population of complete Vulcans 🙁
and maybe Ebay perhaps?
best regards
steve
By: TEXANTOMCAT - 24th August 2005 at 14:31
Not sure actually Hatton, the sale price such as it will probably be eroded over the coming weeks – I imagine the only party that actually profits will be the airport – the principal loser being the population of complete Vulcans 🙁
One way or another it aint leaving Blackpool in one piece and from what i understand the cockpit is white with daz corrosion…
Very sad, but if DB is right, not insurmountable. The local authority own the land so I am quite sure the Seller would hand it over to them to relieve himself of the burden – all they need to do is fund a repaint…..
By: Hatton - 24th August 2005 at 14:19
Well it depends I guess, a) who would scrap it and at what cost (I imagine a lot of hazardous materials in the aircraft which may make it more expensive, disposal costs etc) and b) how LONG it would take to scrap – bear in mind that the aircraft would still be accruing fees whilst the process was being completed.
As long as the Seller was put in the position he would have been if the contract had been fulfilled correctly he cannot force the Buyer to remove the goods – he has been compensated –
Dont know the ins and outs of the case but i imagine this was the best ‘exit strategy’ for the Buyer…
TT
see your point, well, he has no one to blame but himself really. A sad affair of which two parties have profitted and one has lost out.
By: TEXANTOMCAT - 24th August 2005 at 14:07
Well it depends I guess, a) who would scrap it and at what cost (I imagine a lot of hazardous materials in the aircraft which may make it more expensive, disposal costs etc) and b) how LONG it would take to scrap – bear in mind that the aircraft would still be accruing fees whilst the process was being completed.
As long as the Seller was put in the position he would have been if the contract had been fulfilled correctly he cannot force the Buyer to remove the goods – he has been compensated –
Dont know the ins and outs of the case but i imagine this was the best ‘exit strategy’ for the Buyer…
TT
By: Hatton - 24th August 2005 at 13:59
I would imagine that under the terms of the contract he simply paid the costs of the breach ie the £15K, fees during the dispute and court costs and returned the aeroplanes ownership – on the basis its a grand a week, best thing to do, thats what i would have advised him anyway
TT (A lawyer bloke)
surely the best thing to have done, besides not buying it in the first place, would have least been to recoup a little through scrapping it?
By: TEXANTOMCAT - 24th August 2005 at 13:37
I would imagine that under the terms of the contract he simply paid the costs of the breach ie the £15K, fees during the dispute and court costs and returned the aeroplanes ownership – on the basis its a grand a week, best thing to do, thats what i would have advised him anyway
TT (A lawyer bloke)
By: MarkG - 24th August 2005 at 12:34
How has he “relinquished ownership” then? Has he just handed it back to Bateson and written off the £15k or has he had a refund of some kind? Is this the result of the legal action that was going on? :confused:
By: dhfan - 24th August 2005 at 11:59
I don’t know about East Midlands but Roy Jacobsen lost both the Wellesbourne and Southend Vulcans due to unpaid parking fees.
By: Hatton - 24th August 2005 at 10:28
Whilst I have no admiration particularly for Mr Bateson, I don’t feel any sympathy for the publican. There’s a perfect proverb for him and his situation but i’ll be nice.
Damien. If this was true, I wouldnt admire even those that had to do a comestic restoration let alone a full restoration.
By: dragline - 24th August 2005 at 08:38
i seem to remember a owner of a vulcan falling into the same rent trap and having to give it up at the old east/midlands airport in the uk . dragline
By: Peter - 24th August 2005 at 01:06
good chance for a scrappie unfortunately…
By: DJJ - 24th August 2005 at 00:12
I’ve not been following this sad case of ‘man bites off more than he can chew’, but this has me wondering.
When did the ownership revert to the original seller?
Has the pub owner been paying the £1,000 per week rent until recently? If so, the point at which moving the Vulcan (if that was, in fact, possible even with oodles of expertise, TLC, luck, WD40, etc, etc) would have been cheaper than paying the rent passed a few weeks ago.
Has this sorry saga really reached the point where the pub landlord has paid getting on for £40- 50,000 in total for what’s possibly the largest e-bay error in the internet’s history?
Mind-boggling. Sad though it is to say it, if the airframe is past the point of (economical) return, best to bring about a swift end. Otherwise the poor old thing will fall to bits and be as sorry a sight as the A1 Lightning F2A (is that still there being ‘taken care of’ with all offers to restore it being rejected, BTW?)
By: Avro's Finest - 23rd August 2005 at 23:35
Scrap it……
Scrap the bloody thing and put it out of its misery
AF (Ex BBMF)