August 15, 2004 at 7:51 pm
Just watching the Olympic swimming and noticed not many Black swimmers competing of a high standard, but when you think of the Athletics its the reverse where Blacks tend to dominate the sprnt and short course races……genes must play a part in an explanation or past heritage of some sort!
anybody any ideas?? :confused:
By: Low - 17th August 2004 at 21:07
But if you look at alot of sports, blacks are gradually getting into them
To which I replied like tennis.
By: pluto77189 - 17th August 2004 at 14:40
It’s all about Genetics and physical conditioning. Across Africa, there are multitudes of different body types. typically, northern Africans, from Somalia and Ethiopia, are very tall and very lean. The environment is an open savanna, tall grass, hot etc. Thus, over tens of thousands of years(if not more), the most desireable traits have been expressed as such, favoring taller, darker skinned people, who can cover great distances.
Central Africans, living in dense forests are much shorter, just like south american peoples living in similar habitats.
Europeans evoleved in colder climates, where body heat loss was a major selective force, tend to have larger trunks and shorter limb lengths than north africans. The cold has also been a selective force in minor differences, like matted, insulative hair for europeans, and “poofier” hair, that helps iin cooling off, for african people.
In general, People of European decent have shorter limbs for their body weight, while people of African decent have have smaller trunks for their body weight. Essentially, they are more dense than europeans. People of African Decent tend to have denser bones, and less internal body fat–a big contributer to bouyancy.
There’s nothing racist about it–it’s simply the way people evolved in different climates/areas of the world.
White people, having a generally larger trunk and less density on average, will, on average, have an advantage in swimming.
Just like black people, who have denser bones and less internal volume for their weight, expend more energy(on average) to simply stay afloat than white people.
When I go swimming, I have to let almost ALL the air out of my lungs to sink to the bottom. One of the black guys on my swim team could BARELY float with a lungful of air. If he exhales a tiny bit, he sunk right to the bottom.
It was pretty neat, actually.
The reason most running events are dominated by black athletes is simply because people of African ancestry have the ideal body type for track and field events.
By: MINIDOH - 17th August 2004 at 13:01
What are you on about??!! When did I say tennis isnt a sport? Maybe you should read what I actually say, not make up in your mind what you think I said. It could be lumped into my “lot of sports”, but a lot of sports isnt every sport. I wasnt saying they have taken over every sport and I wasnt saying they arent in every sport. Read what I say!
By: Low - 17th August 2004 at 12:56
So you don’t think that tennis is a sport? I thought that since tennis is a sport – it is even in the olympics – that it could be lumped into your ‘lot of sports’. It was not a trick statement.
By: MINIDOH - 17th August 2004 at 12:54
Not entirely sure where you are coming from Low. I said “look at alot of sports, blacks are gradually getting into them (and taking over some of them)”. I never even said the word tennis, where you got that from I dont know.
By: Snapper - 16th August 2004 at 22:28
Love the avatar Hand!
Snapper (who hasn’t seen the Williams sisters at all mate. Nope. Did they go the other way? I’m just going for a nap, see ya…..)
By: Low - 16th August 2004 at 19:57
No persons of colour in tennis? Have you not seen the Williams sister?
By: MINIDOH - 16th August 2004 at 19:44
Not sure whether you mean I think they are taking over tennis or that there arent any in it at all.
By: Low - 16th August 2004 at 18:00
You mean like tennis?
By: MINIDOH - 16th August 2004 at 17:56
I dont know the answer, and I dont really think anyone does. But if you look at alot of sports, blacks are gradually getting into them (and taking over some of them like athletics).
By: Hand87_5 - 16th August 2004 at 08:23
This will bring up some racist theories.
I don’t think so . It’s more due to slight physiological differences and cultural difference..
We have here a very promissing black swimmer. She’s from Guadeloupe.
By: steve rowell - 16th August 2004 at 05:22
Why is the success of blacks and other minorities such as Aboriginal Australians explained away by cultural channelling? Sports success is too complex a phenomenon to be tidily settled by such facile sociology. How do we explain the success of the majority of athletes, of all nations and ancestral heritage, who live in comfortable circumstances? The classic argument that blacks succeed in sports to escape poverty is less and less plausible and more and more racist every day.
Genes may not determine who are the world’s best runners, but they do circumscribe possibility. Kenyans and other East Africans have an innate capacity, not an innate ability, to thrive in distance running; individual effort and courage separate the pretenders from the stars. Success in sports is a bio-social phenomenon.
By: Snapper - 15th August 2004 at 22:12
Zulu’s were not renowned for their snorkel attacks on the British Army.
By: Low - 15th August 2004 at 20:21
This will bring up some racist theories.
By: Mark9 - 15th August 2004 at 19:54
Just watching the Olympic swimming and noticed not many Black swimmers competing of a high standard, but when you think of the Athletics its the reverse where Blacks tend to dominate the sprnt and short course races……genes must play a part in an explanation or past heritage of some sort!
anybody any ideas?? :confused:
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