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Looking at pictures of the Blenheim I noticed how the radial engines seem to restrict the sideways views of the crew. Was there ever a plan to fit smaller engines such as Merlin allowing the crew better all round visibility?

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By: DragonRapide - 12th October 2015 at 12:32

The “Big Bristols” tee-shirt is still a popular line – available through the Blenheim Society, helping keep the world’s only airworthy Blenheim in the air!

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By: Trolly Aux - 12th October 2015 at 12:11

I had a couple at the time Steve, long forgotten by many.

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By: steve611 - 12th October 2015 at 11:53

Trolley Aux

I will remember for a long time seeing the Lead for the Blenheim Society (Betty George) wearing her “Happiness is a big pair of Bristols” T shirt, complete with head on view of a Blenheim image.

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By: Graham Boak - 12th October 2015 at 11:44

Indeed, although this was also driven by the deeper fuselage of the maritime attack Beaufort, so that the pilot sat higher, whereas the Blenheim pilot sat low in the fuselage to reduce drag. By the time the Beaufort was being designed it was understood that the lower the engine on the wing, the lower the drag. Something that was too late for the Halifax but in time for the Lancaster.

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By: D1566 - 12th October 2015 at 09:48

There are three aspects to this.
Firstly, Bristol will not have considered fitting anything other than Bristol engines to the Blenheim. So the next engine up is the Taurus, which does indeed have a smaller diameter.

The slightly later Beaufort had ‘underslung’ Taurus engines, so maybe they did address the issue?

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By: Trolly Aux - 12th October 2015 at 09:43

I think what has been forgot to be mentioned is

They are BIG BRISTOLS !!!

Coat, Hat, Exit stage left,,,,,,,,

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By: anneorac - 12th October 2015 at 09:39

The Blenheim has an excellent all round view especially to the rear…from the Air Gunner/Radio Operator’s position.

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By: cas - 10th October 2015 at 19:50

And since the Merlins were less powerful, it made the single engined performance marginal IIRC. However, the ‘power eggs’ designed for the Beaufighter II were adapted for the Lancaster I think?

It is interesting all this talk of power
When then blenheim was on the drawing board the most powerful engine available was an engine designed in the 1920’s, it was the first radial engine to achieve one horsepower per one pound weight,it was fuel efficient and was producing more power than the merlin. So Bristols in their wisdom used the best aero engine for the job THE BRISTOL MERCURY.

The Blenheim pilots view is more than acceptable but the navigator is restricted in the mk.1 hence the elongation in the later versions

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By: Archer - 10th October 2015 at 14:06

There are three aspects to this.

Thirdly, from the point of pilot’s view, the Mercury may be taller but it is shorter. Just which aspect of the pilot’s view is the more important?

Also, the role of the aircraft meant that all-round visibility wasn’t as important as it would have been on a fighter. Even on more modern twins with significantly smaller engines the view to the side can be severely restricted. It’s something you learn to live with as a pilot.

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By: trekbuster - 10th October 2015 at 13:20

Bristol did fit the Merlin to the Beaufighter but only, I believe, when there was some doubt about the supply of Bristol Hercules engines being adequate to meet wartime demand.

And since the Merlins were less powerful, it made the single engined performance marginal IIRC. However, the ‘power eggs’ designed for the Beaufighter II were adapted for the Lancaster I think?

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By: Creaking Door - 10th October 2015 at 12:02

Bristol did fit the Merlin to the Beaufighter but only, I believe, when there was some doubt about the supply of Bristol Hercules engines being adequate to meet wartime demand.

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By: Graham Boak - 10th October 2015 at 11:57

There are three aspects to this.
Firstly, Bristol will not have considered fitting anything other than Bristol engines to the Blenheim. So the next engine up is the Taurus, which does indeed have a smaller diameter.
Secondly, as pointed out above, you can’t just drop such a significantly different and more powerful engine into a design. More power = bigger prop = wider centre-section, and so on. Even a Taurus would have required significant rework and restressing, potentially leading to a new aircraft.
Thirdly, from the point of pilot’s view, the Mercury may be taller but it is shorter. Just which aspect of the pilot’s view is the more important?

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By: Creaking Door - 10th October 2015 at 10:37

The Merlin engines would be heavier and longer (although more powerful) and this would push the centre-of-gravity forward surely? Then there would be the cooling to consider; where would the radiators go, under the wings or a ‘chin’ installation like the Lancaster?

Overall I think the Merlin would be too big for the Blenheim: (even without a radiator) it is at least half as heavy again as the Bristol Mercury and nearly twice as long, and most of the weight in a Mercury is further back, in line with the cylinders.

No, I wouldn’t call the Merlin a ‘smaller’ engine at all!

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By: pogno - 10th October 2015 at 10:33

The longer nose was to just to provide room for a navigator/bomb aimer station, the pilot seat remained in the same place as the Mk1. The view does appear to be compromised by the engines but I have never seen it criticized so it might look worse than it really is.

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By: Trolly Aux - 10th October 2015 at 10:07

I think that is why they put the longer nose on it. but I am sure some more knowledgeable will be along soon.

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