Read at the scramble message board that according to Airnieuws magazine edition 434 BMI will get another 767. It is going to be ArkeFLY PH-AHQ which does NOT have the same configuration as the 767 already with BMI. The one currently with BMI was originally Martinair, the one that will join was originally SAS.
The lease is to start the 21st of April and end the 1st of April 2007.
Elsewhere I heard the RUMOUR that ArkeFLY is to get 4 A320s or A321s from BMI for the summer. Anyone heard anything about that?
By: Airline owner - 3rd March 2006 at 19:16
this is BMI were talking about so who knows
By: Manston Airport - 3rd March 2006 at 15:30
Hi all I know that an A321-200 will go to Monarch Airlines. Do you think BMI will replace there A330 with A350 aircraft?.
James
By: Skymonster - 3rd March 2006 at 14:13
It is not a change of airframe, but the addition of an airframe. So perhaps PH-MCV will continue the MAN-ANU/-BGI/-LAS route, with PH-AHQ going on the LHR-JED/-RUH route.
Can’t see any reason why bmi needs two 767s, certainly not long term.
bmi leased a 767 to cover MAN flights during A330 heavy checks in MNL, and then to operate the Saudi routes. Once the checks are complete, all currently announced routes can be covered by 3 x A330 (one on daily LHR-BOM, one 7-weekly MAN-ANU/-BGI/-LAS, one on daily MAN-ORD), 1 x 767 (on 7-weekly LHR-RUH/-JED) and one A330-300 (A7-AEA, on LHR-DOH).
The LHR-RUH/-JED routes require a different config to that in which PH-MCV currently operates – maybe there’s just an overlap to support a config change?
Andy
By: Airline owner - 3rd March 2006 at 09:33
wozza,
the bmi A321s are going and we know that the latest that process will start is April when MIDK and MIDH are returned to the lessor. It will probably be a question for the rest of the A321s of when they can sell them.
wasnt G-MIDA knocked off the BD fleet and go to THY? If so, wouldnt it maybe be feasable for THY to purchase more? Afterall, THY have a big Airbus order going anyway for A320’s, A321’s and A330’s.
By: exmpa - 3rd March 2006 at 09:28
It will probably be a question for the rest of the A321s of when they can sell them.
With the exception of one aircraft they are leased, not owned. The company can just hand them back and it becomes the lessor’s problem. The 321’s are going because the direct operating costs are so much higher than a 320 or 319. The newest bmi 319s are in 144 seat config which makes them comparable with the 320 at 156. Although the 321 has 195 seats, you just cannnot squeeze sufficient revenue out of the 51/39 additional seats to offset the higher charges associated with the larger aircraft. Having said that, I wouldn’t be surprised if up to 4 321s were eventually retained, but that would depend on bmi negotiating a satisfactory agreement on a new or extended lease.
exmpa
By: andrewm - 3rd March 2006 at 07:48
wozza,
the bmi A321s are going and we know that the latest that process will start is April when MIDK and MIDH are returned to the lessor. It will probably be a question for the rest of the A321s of when they can sell them.
By: wozza - 3rd March 2006 at 07:47
Apparently the BMI B767 was always going tech before being leased so we should expect this:
Barbados -> Manchester + 20hrs
Manchester -> Las Vegas Cancelled
What will BMI do with the LAS pax?
By: Flightrider - 2nd March 2006 at 22:39
bmi are putting one A321 with Arkefly this summer on a wet-lease which appears to be a reciprocal deal for the B767 wet-lease in the other direction.
By: wozza - 2nd March 2006 at 17:53
Well having thought about it, none of the A321s are painted in the latest BMI scheme so perhaps we should have expected it
By: BFS - 2nd March 2006 at 16:27
An A320 operated the ‘4XF’.
By: andrewm - 2nd March 2006 at 15:50
anyone seen the video of me? http://www.fazed.org/video/view/?id=37
Before Grey Area has a go ( :p ) lets move this wagon back to topic!
By: Mark L - 2nd March 2006 at 15:46
Hence the questioning irony in my post. Have I not taught you anything Jabba ?
By: andrewm - 2nd March 2006 at 15:45
Thats the idea, less seats + higher fares = more money than more seats + lower fares.
Which doesnt explain why they have opted for a LoCo product on board :rolleyes:
Its an illusion to make you think your saving money. Have i not taught you anything young skywalker?
By: andrewm - 2nd March 2006 at 15:43
My dad flew on an A321 last night into Belfast City.
By: allmcc - 2nd March 2006 at 12:03
All of the LHR/BHD flights were operated by A320s yesterday instead of the normal 321s – not sure about today – however, when the 321s were withdrawn for mods to alleviate landing probs at BHD, A320s operated the route and an extra am rotation using a F100 was added. Perhaps this will happen again using an A319 once the last of the 321s disappears. Somehow can’t see E145s being appropriate!
By: Mark L - 2nd March 2006 at 11:16
A321s are full on the first two morning BHD-LHR flights and on the last three return flights so this is going to cause havoc at BHD and will no doubt lead to a price increase!
Thats the idea, less seats + higher fares = more money than more seats + lower fares.
Which doesnt explain why they have opted for a LoCo product on board :rolleyes:
By: andrewm - 2nd March 2006 at 11:04
A321s are full on the first two morning BHD-LHR flights and on the last three return flights so this is going to cause havoc at BHD and will no doubt lead to a price increase!
By: gary o - 2nd March 2006 at 11:04
It’s strange decision to get rid of the A321’s,every service from LHR-DUB is with an A321,only the odd A320/319 service,doesn’t make sense to reduce capacity,especially as aer lingus have re-configured their A321’S for 212 seats.
By: Ren Frew - 2nd March 2006 at 10:48
The way things are going at bmi, they’ll soon only need A318s (or even just go the whole hog and just substitute junglejets onto the routes!) 🙁
Andy
Things that bad eh..? 😮
By: Skymonster - 2nd March 2006 at 09:27
Can anyone explain BMI’s decision to drop the A321 from the fleet ? I thought it was perfectly suited to it’s UK shuttle services ?
The way things are going at bmi, they’ll soon only need A318s (or even just go the whole hog and just substitute junglejets onto the routes!) 🙁
Andy
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