bmi to offend crew, so they don't offend passengers

A major key to all this is our culture is seperate from our laws. Places like Saudi their cultures are ingrained in their laws.

There is a great possibility that it is a case of PC stupidity taken too far once again.

Remember you go to Saudi or Dubai or somewhere similar on holiday then you dress accordingly because that is their LAW not just their culture.

The muslim commumity of Britain don’t seem to be offended by British blokes and we aren’t offended by them (with the exeption of racist groups 🙁 ). So if it is OK with them, why should it offend others of their religion?

This is asinine. I vote we petition for Saudi airlines flying into the UK to make sure none of their flight attendants wear Muslim garb on the jet or out in public on the tarmac as it might offend the Western beliefs of England. If it works one way, it has to be ok for it to work the other, right?

If not, then it’s a huge double standard and completely asinine.

And in the blurb before the quote it says Sunday Mirror. I did wonder about some of the longer words in the quote, but since it said Sunday Mirror at the top…;)

Flood

Yes I wondered that myself, and why if it did originate in the Sunday Mirror, it wasn’t accompanied by a picture of head cabin stewardess “Donna’s” crucifix adorned cleavage, or “Bristol aerodromes” as they say in the News of the World… :diablo:

I saw this article in the Sunday Mirror on my way home yesturday. I saw it as quite shocking!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/01/09/nbmi09.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/01/09/ixhome.html

So female crew have to cover themselves up, just so they don’t offend the passengers!?
And if the Saudi goverment find out that some of the male crew are homosexual, will they be arrested, or murdered?!

What is this world coming to!

this is the same PC BS that Denmark faces where Saudi’s want Danish papers to edit out offensive cartoons about Arabs out of respect for them.. when their very own country lacks any kind of freedom of speech or religion.

Have you clicked the link ? It says Telegraph :rolleyes:

And in the blurb before the quote it says Sunday Mirror. I did wonder about some of the longer words in the quote, but since it said Sunday Mirror at the top…;)

Flood

Just to make it clear, i initially saw it in the Mirror, but found the artice on the Telegraph site 😉

Most probably pooled by Reuters or AP in that case ?

Just to make it clear, i initially saw it in the Mirror, but found the artice on the Telegraph site 😉

Eh? Thought this was taken from the Sunday Mirror…?

Flood

Have you clicked the link ? It says Telegraph :rolleyes:

Sounds like a storm in a tea cup to me, a bit of a lame story and typical jingoistic nonsense designed to stir up paranoid reactions like that above, by Britain’s favourerd right wing rag. 😡

Eh? Thought this was taken from the Sunday Mirror…?

Flood

This has now gone off-topic for Commercial Aviation, so off to General Discussion……

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Mind how you go, now……

I remember a case like this a few christmas’s ago, which ended up in Red cross shops closing because muslims wouldnt visit because of the christmas nativity scenes, which ended up meaning muslims wouldnt shop there. In the end, Red cross shops took down all there christmas decorations in order not to offend muslims. With no christmas decorations up, this offended christians and meant that alot of there shops nationwide had to close due to lack of customers.

No one is ever told they must show respect towards, and tolerance of, British culture, so why should British people always be expected to bend over backwards to accommodate the wishes and sensitivities of others? I happen to find the glorification of terrorism and the lauding of suicide bombers as heroes and martyrs extremely vile and distasteful, bu Muslims are still allowed to do that so no mention there of them being expected to adhere to the sensitivities of the British people is there?

I thought a sense of respect for others was one of the very cornerstones of the muslim faith ?

I think (once again) you may be confusing religious observance and foreign customs with terrorist actions? In a country such as our’s where religious worship has been in decline for decades, I’m not sure exactly what it is of our’s you expect these people to respect ? Football hooligans, the chip butty, a stiff upper lip ??? 😮

To address your point about terrorists being lauded as heroes and martyrs by (shall we say) misguided British followers of muslim faith ? I think Mr Straw, in between displaying his respect for foreign cultures, has created some leglislation against such displays of unpatriotic views ??

Now off to the GD with this one please mods…

I must admit the only people I’ve seen brandishing crucifixes about their person have been nuns and Madonna fans ? 😀

And I can’t recall seeing too many hosties on planes wearing them either? If we’re talking about a little cross on a necklace, then surely it’s something discreet that can easily be hidden behind the all too common neck scarf we see on so many female cabin crew uniforms ? And the males tend to be in collar and tie, do they not.

Sounds like a storm in a tea cup to me, a bit of a lame story and typical jingoistic nonsense designed to stir up paranoid reactions like that above, by Britain’s favourerd right wing rag. 😡

No one is ever told they must show respect towards, and tolerance of, British culture, so why should British people always be expected to bend over backwards to accommodate the wishes and sensitivities of others? I happen to find the glorification of terrorism and the lauding of suicide bombers as heroes and martyrs extremely vile and distasteful, bu Muslims are still allowed to do that so no mention there of them being expected to adhere to the sensitivities of the British people is there?

This reminds me of when Jack Straw wore a turban for a foreign visit – it’s totally unneccesary as it should be a case of mutual respect for each other’s culture so everyone feels comfortable to express their own religous beliefs. Having said that however I realise how fortunate we are to live an a country where this is (to a large extent) possible.

I know this is off topic but.. didn’t Muslim girls in France get told to stop wearing religious dress in school ? it can happen 😛

Yes, and it created uproar in France!

I’m guessing the culture in Saudi Arabia is very different to most western countries so certain values that westerners accept as standard may be considered too liberal in Muslim countries, it’s no surprise to me that an airline would go out of it’s way to try and avoid causing offence or just looking out of place.

I know this is off topic but.. didn’t Muslim girls in France get told to stop wearing religious dress in school ? it can happen 😛

Is Jewellry not banned for Health and Safety reasons in terms of neckless or crucifix?

I kind of sympathise with them to a degree as there would be huge ruckas if a Muslim woman was told she had to wear a western style uniform to not offend the passengers. Why should the situation be different for Western people?

I dont see the problem, they’re just asking their employees to be courteous.

Big deal you might have to wear a scarf, or wear jewellry under your uniform….

I quite agree.