Boeing 767 Production

UPS orders 27 Boeing 767s

Tribune staff, wire reports
Published February 6, 2007
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United Parcel Service Inc. ordered 27 Boeing Co. 767-300ER freighters valued at as much as $3.89 billion to meet demand from increasing global trade. The purchase comes as Atlanta-based UPS remains in talks with Airbus SAS over its delayed order for 10 A380 jumbo freighters. The new planes are not intended to replace the A380s and will instead fill shorter-range needs, UPS said Monday. The 767s will be delivered between 2009 and 2012. The 767’s list price is $133 million to $144 million, but orders for multiple aircraft usually are discounted.

Boeing had a backlog of just 28 orders for 767s, or enough for about two years’ worth of production, before UPS’ order, according to Airclaims Group’s Ascend, which maintains aircraft fleet and valuation data. “Keeping the line open through 2012 is Boeing’s big win with this one,” said Douglas Runte, managing director of RBS Greenwich Capital Markets.

we’ll see ./.

Could be… guess we’ll see.

But that would be a sweet deal — 777Fs for the USAF… mmm… (not that I’m biased toward the 777 at all :dev2: )

Yeah, I saw that yesterday as well. I’m guessing Boeing lost the bid to Airbus A332 tankers?

No…more like the USAF changing its requirement to “tanker/transport” aircraft, so the 777 may be submitted in its place.

I think the airframe is coming close to the end of it’s expected cycle. I know Ansett had quite a bit of trouble trying to offload some of it’s older models with at least two being parted out and broken up

Yeah, I saw that yesterday as well. I’m guessing Boeing lost the bid to Airbus A332 tankers?

Boeing to cease production of 767s

Tribune staff, wire reports
Published February 15, 2006
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Despite a stream of recent orders for its 767 wide-body jet, Boeing Co. plans to end production of it without a Pentagon contract for air-refueling tankers, Chief Financial Officer James Bell said Monday. The 767s, which started flying in 1981, are being replaced in Chicago-based Boeing’s lineup in 2008 by the 787 Dreamliner. The company had hoped to build 100 767s for the Air Force as a tanker, but that controversial $23 billion deal was scuttled in 2004 after a procurement scandal. No timetable was given for halting 767 production. The company got 19 new orders for 767s in 2005 and has a backlog of 30.

Originally posted by 4 engines good
I must say I really can’t understand why anyone would want to order new 767s today

767 earns reprieve as 787 ramp-up considered

Flight International
21-June-05

Boeing is studying a faster production ramp-up for the 787 through 2008-10 to meet airline demand and, in a related move, has stayed the execution of the 767 to fulfil what are expected to be “fall-back” sales. The company plans to deliver a total of 95 787s in 2008-9, itself representing a virtually unparalleled production figure for a new commercial model.

However, 787 vice-president and general manager Mike Bair says “we’re looking to see if we can up those numbers and pull the ramp-up forward if we can. The market would take as many as we could produce.” Boeing Commercial Airplanes president Alan Mulally adds: “We’re sold out for the first three years, and it’s an issue – a positive issue.” As a fallout, Boeing appears to have secured new 767 sales as a fall-back, although these have yet to be announced. Mulally says that as a result, “we will not have to make that decision [to shut the line] this year. It looked like we would, but with the additional activity we’re having with customers it looks like we won’t.” He says the availability question on the 787 is “partially the reason for more demand for the 767”.

Bair says the ramp-up study involves “an assessment of our entire supply chain to see if we can do it. We have to see what is a prudent ramp-up, and not an imprudent increase as we did on the 737 Next Generation,” he adds, referring to the production crisis suffered by the company when it prematurely sought to raise 737 production rates in the 1990s.

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Reprieve for 767/747?

Flight International (via Airline Business)
1-July-05

Renewed sales interest in both the 767 and 747 means that Boeing will not have to decide this year whether to cease production of the slow-selling types. Both will go on for “a number of years”, providing a bridge to the entry into service of the new 787 mid-sized cruiser and proposed 747 Advanced. “It represents a very low risk approach to move up in scale,” says Boeing head salesman Scott Carson.

I must say I really can’t understand why anyone would want to order new 767s today :confused:

It makes as much sense as someone placing an order for A300s…

Boeing and Japan Airlines Confirm Order for Six 767-300ERs

(Source: Boeing Co.; issued June 30, 2005)

SEATTLE — The Boeing Company and Japan Airlines (JAL) today confirmed an order by JAL for six new Boeing 767-300ER airplanes, valued at approximately $800 million at list prices.

The airline will receive three freighters and three passenger models. Deliveries will begin in 2007 and run through early 2008. It is the first time JAL has ordered the 767-300ER Freighter.

“Boeing and Japan Airlines have a very special relationship, based on long-time mutual knowledge and trust,” said Boeing Commercial Airplanes Vice President of Sales Larry Dickenson. “These 767 models provide excellent efficiency and reliability for JAL’s regional routes. We are proud to be JAL’s partner.”

General Electric CF6-80C2 high-bypass turbofan engines will power the new airplanes. With this order, Japan Airlines’ 767 commitments total 46 airplanes.

The 767 offers superior reliability and low operating cost per trip. Boeing has delivered 930 767s that are flown by more than 100 operators worldwide. The 767 family has accumulated more than 10 million flights and carried millions of passengers.

The 767 Freighter is the only 60-ton freighter with international capability and can accommodate a combined maximum payload capability of 16,034 feet 3 (454 cu m). At its 60.5-ton (54.88 metric ton) maximum payload, the 767 Freighter has a range of 3,270 nautical miles (6,056 km). When carrying 50 tons (45.4 metric tons), the 767 Freighter has a range of 4,255 nautical miles (7,880 km).

As of June 1, 2005, JAL serves 208 airports in 35 countries with approximately 28 0 airplanes, including Boeing 747, 777, 767 and 737 models.

JAL has also ordered 30 Boeing 787 Dreamliners and 30 Next-Generation 737-800 passenger airplanes.

Japan is a good partner for the Boeing B-767 i have flown in ANA`s Boeing 767 from Hokkaido to Tokio, a really beautiful aircraft

Boeing 767 ANA quite beautiful aircraft

Boeing and Japan Airlines Confirm Order for Six 767-300ERs

(Source: Boeing Co.; issued June 30, 2005)

SEATTLE — The Boeing Company and Japan Airlines (JAL) today confirmed an order by JAL for six new Boeing 767-300ER airplanes, valued at approximately $800 million at list prices.

The airline will receive three freighters and three passenger models. Deliveries will begin in 2007 and run through early 2008. It is the first time JAL has ordered the 767-300ER Freighter.

“Boeing and Japan Airlines have a very special relationship, based on long-time mutual knowledge and trust,” said Boeing Commercial Airplanes Vice President of Sales Larry Dickenson. “These 767 models provide excellent efficiency and reliability for JAL’s regional routes. We are proud to be JAL’s partner.”

General Electric CF6-80C2 high-bypass turbofan engines will power the new airplanes. With this order, Japan Airlines’ 767 commitments total 46 airplanes.

The 767 offers superior reliability and low operating cost per trip. Boeing has delivered 930 767s that are flown by more than 100 operators worldwide. The 767 family has accumulated more than 10 million flights and carried millions of passengers.

The 767 Freighter is the only 60-ton freighter with international capability and can accommodate a combined maximum payload capability of 16,034 feet 3 (454 cu m). At its 60.5-ton (54.88 metric ton) maximum payload, the 767 Freighter has a range of 3,270 nautical miles (6,056 km). When carrying 50 tons (45.4 metric tons), the 767 Freighter has a range of 4,255 nautical miles (7,880 km).

As of June 1, 2005, JAL serves 208 airports in 35 countries with approximately 28 0 airplanes, including Boeing 747, 777, 767 and 737 models.

JAL has also ordered 30 Boeing 787 Dreamliners and 30 Next-Generation 737-800 passenger airplanes.

Anybody care to venture a guess on who and when?

SOMEONE who is goin to get one heckofa deal on the 767 just cuz boeing wants to prelong its production line to have a better chance to last for the USAF tanker contract (if and when it happens)…Smart airlines would push boeing for that..I would suspect it would be some Asian airline..although my source completely denies that boeing has anything more then 5-8 767 orders under talks with potential customers..and knowing my source and his relative high position in BA as well as his track record with me i would be inclined to believe him

Mulally said Boeing is seeing “continued interest” in the 767 from airlines that want to buy more as a replacement for older planes, for growth and as a bridge to the 787, which is scheduled to enter service in mid-2008.

He did not say how soon Boeing might announce additional 767 orders.

Anybody care to venture a guess on who and when?

Boeing 767 Everett line likely safe for this year
Mulally also says they’ll probably develop bigger 747

By JAMES WALLACE
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER AEROSPACE REPORTER
Tuesday, June 14, 2005

LE BOURGET, France — The Boeing Co. is seeing enough interest from airlines in the 767 that it probably will not need to decide this year on ending production of the plane, Alan Mulally, chief executive of Boeing’s jetliner business, disclosed yesterday.

“Right now, we don’t anticipate having to make that decision this year,” Mulally said in an interview at the Paris Air Show.

Boeing had been expected to make an announcement on the fate of the 767 by mid- to late summer.

Just a few months ago, that plane, as well as the 747, looked to be on the endangered list. Both are built in Everett, along with the 777.

But Boeing is likely to go ahead with development of a bigger 747, though no decision has been made. Mulally said there is growing interest from airlines in both the freighter and passenger versions of the 747 Advanced. The passenger plane would have about 30 more seats than the current 747-400

Boeing has another 24 747-400s left to build, and Mulally hinted at additional 747-400 orders that would allow for continued production until the new model comes along, probably in 2008 or 2009. The 747 Advanced would be a stretch of the existing 747-400, with the engines being developed by General Electric for the 787.

Boeing Chairman Lewis Platt had said at the air show this past weekend that the board would discuss the 747 Advanced at its next meeting at the end of the month, though it is not clear when the board might actually give the OK to launch development of the plane.

So far this year, five previous 747-400 orders have been canceled, but Boeing has won two additional orders, for a net loss of three planes.

It’s a similar story for the 767. Customers have canceled four previous 767 orders this year, and Boeing has won three new orders, for a net loss of one 767. Boeing had 20 767s left to build at the end of May.

Mulally said Boeing is seeing “continued interest” in the 767 from airlines that want to buy more as a replacement for older planes, for growth and as a bridge to the 787, which is scheduled to enter service in mid-2008.

He did not say how soon Boeing might announce additional 767 orders.

Eventually, the 787 will replace the 767.

But delaying a decision on ending production of the 767 buys Boeing more time while the Pentagon considers what to do about tankers for the Air Force.

Boeing had a $23 billion deal with the Air Force to build 100 767 tankers, but it was killed by Congress last year as a result of a military procurement scandal at Boeing. A decision by the Pentagon on how to proceed isn’t likely until later this year.

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This may be of use

http://www.767.org.uk/

Many thanks for the responses guys – They have been very helpful.

It is sad to see the end is near for another of my favourite airliners. Still, the 767 has has a good production run and like it’s smaller sister, the 757, it will be flying in our skies for many years to come at least.

I guess Boeing will be concentrating on the 787 now and it seems like it will be an ideal replacement for airlines with older 767 fleets. I recall seeing a photograph of an ex TWA 767 being broken up recently – a very sad site indeed.

Now that the first old 757 (one has already been reduced to scrap in Florida) and 767 types have been broken up, it would appear that many more will be facing the axe in the next few years. Both types would make excellent freighters though and DLA have demonstrated this with their ex BA 757 fleet.

Regards,

Jim

Welcome aboard Jimbo.

According to Boeing’s website there are 18 767s on backlog: LINK

The latest I’ve read is that this could keep the line open for about another 18 months, or, Boeing could choose to clear it out by the end of the year.

Much will depend on the USAF tanker competition which is due to be restarted next month.

AFAIK its Everett in terms of production??