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Boiled sweets for take off and landing!

In the 80s, I flew many times with East Midlands based charter airline Orion Airways. They were a delight with their lovely livery and cheery service. One thing that satnds out is the boiled sweets one got prior to take off and landing. The stewardesss would pass through the cabin with a wicker basket filled with chocolate limes or mint imperials!

This extra little touch stuck in my mind as a kid! Why dont any of the charter airlines do that today? Give that bit extra? Surely it wouldnt be an expensive prospect, I can go down my quid shop and get a big bag for a quid. It wouldnt cost much but would set them apart from other airlines and passengers would remember the gesture!

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By: Ren Frew - 6th September 2004 at 14:47

Just (another) reminder that the forums are not for spats and bickering, sensible “mature” posting please and that doesn’t mean mature aged posters either. 😀

“The inevitable tangents” Sandy ? I’ve got all their records you know. 😀

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By: Bmused55 - 6th September 2004 at 14:35

They certainly get people talking though and create a bit of interest.

Agreed.

LBARULES, there is nothing wrong with starting multiple threads. that way we can discuss the seperate topic, well…. seperately and experience the enevitable tangents that will shoot off of them properly.

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By: danairboy - 6th September 2004 at 13:12

They certainly get people talking though and create a bit of interest.

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By: LBARULES - 6th September 2004 at 13:04

You are such an arrogant person DanAir, I do like the posts remembering the old days, what I dont like is about 10 of them coming at once! I myself have started maybe 1 or 2 posts like this in the distant past, and I enjoy them, but cant you just keep everything to maybe one thread titles ‘charter airline memories’ like your other post was titles and keep everything in there?

No need to be so arrogant DanAir, look at the posts you have got in reply to your threads and see how many people AGREE with me.

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By: danairboy - 6th September 2004 at 12:43

Kurmitz, what a brilliant reply. Read it and weep LBA boy and MANAIRPORT MAD some people apreciate my posts and like to wallow in a bit of airline nostalgia. The only reason you dont like them is coz your not old enough to remember the airlines and the times we talk of. I grew up with Orion, DanAir and the like, you grew up with MYT and JMC. Wait till you start shaving before you criticise haha.

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By: kurmitz28 - 5th September 2004 at 23:36

I flew with Estonia Air last year and got given boiled sweets for landing.
Incidently only a few weeks ago, Flood was complaining that nobody seemed to start any new threads as it all seemed like copy / pasting or polls, so to have a thread about bygone years is good, whether it be charter (i’l never fly charter again!!) or old carriers
Those who post just to complain, whats the point? just because YOU dont like posts like this…..

Right, thats my ‘soap-box’ moment finished with

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By: Pablo - 5th September 2004 at 22:55

Should any airline provide me with a free choc and I would be loyal for life!

Aeroflot do.

I remember the boiled sweets too. It was tragic if an airline didn’t bring them round in the late ’80s. Not that they ever seemed to have much effect on a pressurised TriStar.

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By: bmi-star - 5th September 2004 at 22:20

I enjoyed that Choc u got on the SWISS flight! I got 6 on the way back from ZRH last month, as they were overstocked, and i was in back, and i think they were about to go off! U also get a postcard of the a/c u were on, so i got 2 ERJ’ ones!

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By: MontyP - 5th September 2004 at 21:17

The individual cost is very low, but over a period of time it can be quite substantial. Back in the days when we had four Saab 340’s operating schedules (around 1993), we spent circa £50,000 per year on ‘swiss chocolate’. This was a very small bar of chocolate handed out with the afternoon/evening meal.

And really nice they were too. Very classy wrapped in the gold foil 🙂

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By: DarrenBe - 5th September 2004 at 15:54

No danair boy, I’m talking about a UK airline.

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By: Dantheman77 - 5th September 2004 at 15:31

This is gonna sound stupid,but probably one reason boiled sweets are no longer served is because of todays very “sue”(sp?) happy culture, fall over a tear a ligament in your knee and you get £2000+, perhaps airlines dont want to be in court over somebody choking on a boiled sweet and recieve bad publicity from such an event.

i went to a boiled sweet company near to were i live,and the MD told me that every box of 5000 sweets cost’s him £3 to produce, which on an airline you couldnt buy a G&T for!

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By: LBARULES - 5th September 2004 at 14:19

Danair – Who went bust after 9/11? Swissair. Would you sooner Swiss go bust and give you a meal? Airlines always charge alot for food on board and you know that, so why do you keep going on about it?

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By: danairboy - 5th September 2004 at 13:37

I take it your not on about Crossair/Swiss who now charge for food on board there scheduled flights! A princely price as well, I might add. I nearly died of shock when flying Swiss recently and finding a price list in the seat pocket. Swissair wouldnt have treated you like that.

We did get a little swiss choc though, but that didnt make up for having to pay about a £10 for a little bottle of plonk and a salad, Scandolous!

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By: DarrenBe - 5th September 2004 at 13:31

Mongu,

I was just pointing out the costs involved. We never actually stopped serving chocolates, the airline was eventually sold onto new owners, which led to a complete change in our operation. We had to stop operating ‘our’ schedules.

Prior to the buy-out, we provided all of our pax with a business class type service, regardless of the ticket they bought. Unfortunately we always operated at a loss, which is one of the reasons why we had a change in owners.

As for the comment on increasing ticket prices, I understand that it’s a bit more complicated than that. For some reason its ‘easier’ to add a ‘surcharge’ to cover increased fuel prices, than it is to increase the ticket price to cover additional catering costs. I don’t know the full reasons why, as revenue management is not my area of expertise.

Regardless to say we still hand sweets to all our pax, during descent, sometimes its a Belgian chocolate, others its a boiled sweet.

Darren

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By: mongu - 4th September 2004 at 23:56

What choice?

Economy on Airline A = Economy on Airline B.

It makes no difference to me who I fly with. Scheduling and price are the only differences between airlines. Emirates offer better schedules than (say) BA, who only fly anywhere from London.

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By: Grey Area - 4th September 2004 at 23:32

Amazing how they keep on expanding and expanding, isn’t it?

I mean, it’s not as if passengers have a choice these days, is it?

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By: danairboy - 4th September 2004 at 23:16

Yes, one could be forgiven for thinking they are a charter carrier when seated in their economy cabin!

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By: mongu - 4th September 2004 at 23:12

Well reasoned reply. I agree, wholeheartedly! I remember the airlines who went out of their way and provided those extra touches. Should any airline provide me with a free choc and I would be loyal for life!

Emirates gave me a magnum bar and a hot towel afterwards! Sadly their institutional fear of open spaces in the cabin distracted me from the other good points of their service.

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By: danairboy - 4th September 2004 at 23:02

Well reasoned reply. I agree, wholeheartedly! I remember the airlines who went out of their way and provided those extra touches. Should any airline provide me with a free choc and I would be loyal for life!

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By: mongu - 4th September 2004 at 22:59

The individual cost is very low, but over a period of time it can be quite substantial. Back in the days when we had four Saab 340’s operating schedules (around 1993), we spent circa £50,000 per year on ‘swiss chocolate’. This was a very small bar of chocolate handed out with the afternoon/evening meal.

The same with catering, the meals etc cost very little, but the ‘delivery’ and other ‘add-on’ costs, can add at least 400%-500% to the total cost of providing a meal.

Increase ticket prices by £1. I doubt such a small price increase would drive passengers away. Airlines regularly increase prices to cover costs (they call this a “supplement”, as with fuel, but in reality it is a price rise). 1 year later, when booking another flight, I won’t remember that the price was £1 more than the competition. But I will remember that it was a good flight and tend to give my repeat business.

Depends on your definition of what costs are voluntary and which are not. Providing a good experience is not, in my opinion, voluntary.

The fact that so many airlines went bust (who all used to give good service) is not due to the mere fact that they gave a good service. It was more to do with their being run by idiots with no idea what “profit” meant.

For surviving airlines to therefore use the line that times are tight, other airlines providing free choccies etc, went bust, so we’re cutting back in order to survive…that is just disingenious.

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