Bomb explosion Central Oslo

He has said he will account for his actions and explain his reasons tomorrow. It will be instructive to see what more he has to say. But what has been revealed to date is hardly the work of a madman. Rather someone deeply motivated and totally committed to his cause.

One of the things that i found curious is why he didn’t commit suicide after the carnage or why didn’t he try to die “fighting” the policemen. Well, he did it all “by the book”. Again, from their manifesto:

Post-operational phases – propaganda and consolidation

7a. Apprehension

If you for some reason survive the operation you will be apprehended and arrested. This is the point where most heroic Knights would call it a day. However, this is not the case for a Justiciar Knight. Your arrest will mark the initiation of the propaganda phase.

7b. Your trial offers you a stage to the world

See 3.63, 3.64 and 3.57-3.60

I think that now it all explains why he went for the govermental building with a bomb and then the Labour party youth meeting. From the text of the manifesto:

3.41 Western European primary targets (Phase 1)

Concentrate on massive and compact buildings that are vulnerable to a “single source” blast/assault. We must ensure that a maximum number of category A, B and C traitors are hit with a minimum of civilians. Specified targets fit that profile:

Prioritised targets:

MA100 political parties – cultural Marxist/multiculturalist political parties. Prioritised targets include HQs or annual meetings of MA100 political parties
Annual media conferences (concentrations of journalists, 500 journalists +)
Category A and B traitors (individual executions/assassinations)
Major EU HQ’s (Brussels or elsewhere in Europe)
Government buildings with high concentrations of category A and B traitors
Any major “cultural Marxist/multiculturalist” building
Any Western European state media channel HQ (cultural Marxist/multiculturalist propaganda centers)
Any mainstream Multiculturalist media HQ (preferably left wing)
Certain university/college faculties; faculty of journalism, sociology, political science. Also faculties housing so called “diversity or middle eastern studies. These are notorious cultural Marxist/multiculturalist nests for tomorrow’s leaders. Target staff – professors/teachers/lecturers. Students are considered acceptable indirect targets as f. example 95-99% of journalism students will support multiculturalism indirectly/directly.
Any major Muslim target (f example a stadium or large hall hosting a cultural event, where 2000+ Muslims are gathered). F. example during Id celebration at the end of Ramadan. This will result in massive Muslim rioting across the European continent which will be a substantial destabilising factor for many EUSSR regimes. It will also serve us well as it will contribute to polarisation and create further desired tensions within communities.
Mosques and Islamic cultural centers

More controversial targets:

Major UN buildings in Western Europe – very tempting targets, but we should consider the fact that we might enrage nations not involved at that point by killing representatives from several “ally nations”. At the same time, these operations will guarantee maximum press coverate (if this is a problem). The first experimental target will confirm if these types of targets are suitable. The international community might support a global “war on fascism” which might, in a negative way, add to our already large list of enemies.
Historical government/parliament buildings (the first target will confirm if these types of targets are suitable).

Royal castles etc. (should be avoided as a principle but can be targeted if the building is used as a hub for guests of the cultural Marxist/ multiculturalist regime or if massive PR is desired. The building should have lesser historical or cultural value. It may anger many moderate cultural conservatives and might prove counter-productive (the first target will confirm if these types of targets are suitable).

Targets which should be avoided:

Historical buildings
Buildings and sites with an unacceptable ratio/number of civilians.

3.42 Western European primary targets – Priority list

Target countries (Phase 1 operations based on situation per Q1 2009):

Country Percent Muslims Priority Stance

France 12-13% Very high Extr. Hostile
Germany 7-10% Very high Extr. Hostile
United Kingdom 5-9% Very high Extr. Hostile
Netherlands 8-12% Very high Extr. Hostile
Belgium 8-12% Very high Extr. Hostile
Sweden 7-10% Very high Extr. Hostile
Austria 5-7% High Extr. Hostile
Norway 5-7% High Extr. Hostile
Switzerland 5-7% High Extr. Hostile
Luxembourg 5-7% High Extr. Hostile
Spain 5-7% High Extr. Hostile
Italy 5-7% High Extr. Hostile
Portugal 5-7% Moderate Hostile
Denmark 5-7% Moderate Hostile
Ireland 5-7% Low Hostile
Greece 5-7% Low Hostile
Finland 2-4% Low Hostile
Iceland 2-4% Low Hostile
Cyprus 2-4% Low Hostile
Malta 2-4% Low Hostile

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If it wasn’t for what happened to Norway, i would say that this is a team of children that like fantasy roles and they like thinking themselves as Templars. But now things are serious after what happened in Norway. This “brotherhood of killers” must be struck down to the root. In the text, written by probably a British in London, they are openly inciting terrorism with fine detail about how to do it, how to avoid detection, how to obtain weapons and explosives etc. Interpol must come down on them.

I also think that there are parts in this manifesto, that should be divulged in the media, so to have the people aware of what danger they MIGHT be in and who these people are and what they try to achieve. If public opinion is unaware of their goals, they will fall easier prey to their plans and will suffer greater panic. The greek media for example didn’t say a word that they have greek members too and that Greece is also in their “to-do” list. I hope this changes today.

Here is the video without the 1500 text. The video alone is i think “harmless” for sane persons, but explains the motives of this killer and combined to what the text says , shows that this was organized plan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MTGPGS2T-Q

Is this official Norwegian uniform? It could be cerimonial uniform, but the arm patch seems a bit “too much” to me for a western army. Also a bit too much of a decoration maybe? He wasn’t a career officer in the norwegian army, was he? If so, it means they have their own uniforms too.

This is even more disturbing, since in their “attack strategy”, anything is OK. In a chapter of the 1500 manifesto, there is special mention that it is “OK to kill women that will happen to be in front of you during the assault” and in another point the same text mentions that “it is unavoidable that civillians will have to die by the thousands”.

Note the “Templar” patch on the biohazard suit:

This is even more serious than it already is because they act according to a plan.

Well, it appears that this distorted mind had organized everything to the last detail. He has prepared his manifesto which explains his actions:

Now, i ‘ve seen the video and i can’t understand how this works. I hope that he is alone in this insanity. Basically, he talks about civil war in order to save his compatriots and Europe… Saving someone by killing him is a bit of a contraddiction.

I am also surprised that the video talks about a new “Knights Templar” organization that was founded in Britain and apparently he was part of it too. All this time i thought the Knights Templar were finished at the time of Jacques de Molay… I wonder what the “original” ones would say about killing your own compatriots…

Even if ones tries to follow his irrational logic, how is killing your own youth helping your demographics compared to the islamists? All this, together with illusions of knighthood , of being “martyrs” for the sake of Europe, is a very disturbing theory that i hadn’t even suspected that existed. I hope the “buddies” “knights” of him aren’t so crazy as to follow his example…

Just when you thought you ‘ve seen all there is to see, here comes a new theory and leaves you astonished… They even have a timeline for their “war” at 2083. Did they use astrology to figure that out? Besides, a civil war up to 2083, will mean only a handful of people living in Europe at that time, which will mean total defeat in demographics compared to the muslims, so this beats again his own plan.

Unbelievable…

P.S.: As if it wasn’t already enough having Al-Qaeda types of “martyrs” ready to take out infidels, now we have also “Knights Templars” “martyrs” also willing to take out their own sort of “infidels” (“marxist”-“multiculturalists” in this case). Unbelievable.

EDIT: I removed the link, since that now i ‘ve taken a quick look also at the VERY disturbing text of 1500 pages too, i saw it has instructions of how to even sabotage a nuclear reactor, make chemical rounds, etc. The killer is also portrayed with weapon, a military suit that i don’t think it’s genuine norwegian because of an “unconventional” patch and a biohazard suit. This story goes far more further than a single lunatic going mad, they are a proper terrorist organization and goverments have to deal with them seriously, because what he did, is what is instructed that they should do in their text manifesto. So he “followed the plan”, he didn’t go mad.

A country, naturlig, in disbelief today. A truly tragic event of unimaginable scale and one which loses this fantastic country of its innocence and so many innocents. Lest we forget…

Extremely black days

No, I realise that, and no offence taken. It is so difficult sometimes to get the spirit of one’s posts across.

(Previous post edited to clarify.)

Creaking Door.

I don’t believe that at any point I have tried to paint you to be a Nazi, but if my comments have been clumsily worded to give you that impression then I assure you it was completely unintentional and offer you a sincere and unreserved apology.

Regards,

kev35

Possibly my comments could have been clearer…..but thanks for choosing the interpretation that makes it look like I’m a nazi! 😀

This man isn’t right-wing or left-wing, he isn’t a nazi, a neo-nazi or an extreme-marxist, he is mentally-ill.

Please let us not dignify this atrocity with any political or rational aim.

Any clearer?

I do not doubt that in his own mind the perpetrator thought he was taking part in a political process but just because he saw it that way, it doesn’t mean that we have to, do we?

Terrible events, simply terrible; why do these lunatics always seem to target children?

One thing I would like to say is why must everybody attempt to pigeonhole lunatics into a political, religious and social category? This man isn’t right-wing or left-wing, he isn’t a nazi, a neo-nazi or an extreme-marxist, he is mentally-ill so please let’s not dignify this atrocity with any political or rational aim.

Bad choice of words there if you really intended to say that being allied with either the exreme left or right is a rational political aim.

If there is no political element to this then why target Government buildings instead of a restaurant or cinema and then go on to attack those attending the gathering of a political youth movement? This has politics all over it. Of course the man was unhinged, bur politics is the motive. That and a twisted belief system. What did his Twitter message say?

“One person with a belief is equal to the force of 100,000 who have only interests.”

Regards,

kev35

Whilst I agree with your sentiments, CD, do we actually know that for sure? There is always so much confusion and speculation with appalling events like these.

Terrible events, simply terrible; why do these lunatics always seem to target children?

One thing I would like to say is why must everybody attempt to pigeonhole lunatics into a political, religious and social category? This man isn’t right-wing or left-wing, he isn’t a nazi, a neo-nazi or an extreme-marxist, he is mentally-ill so please let’s not dignify this atrocity with any political or rational aim.

This is a very disturbed man to say the least..
But as why he didn’t attack muslims in Norway, i have one explenation..

The ruling Labour party in Norway is some way to the left, a Sosial party with a liberal view on imigrants and muslims questions.
There are one Party to the far Right called FRP whom try to spread fear and resist any integration of foreign imigrants and muslims.

I’m pretty sure this is one crazy @sshole that belong in that political wing, most likely even more radical than FRP party.
And this is connected to the camp i think, this sicko is political motivated, and thats why he attacked the the Goverment center and the Labour youth convention at the Island.
As thing stands at the moment his action will only unite imigrants and Muslims even more into our society, so in a sense his action is counter productive for what this man stands for.

And that is a comforting thought at times like this.

Can’t help wondering whether the bombing was a diversion to allow to him to carry out his second atrocity unmolested. I expect all will be revealed in the fullness of time.

Everyone jumps straight onto the Islamist bandwagon yet it now appears that he was a right wing Christian with Anti-Muslim views. Strange then that he didn’t attack a Muslim target.

Perhaps more worrying is in light of the fact that the media is suggesting Norway has had recent problems with right wing and Neo-Nazi groups, that one of the survivors of the island attack when asked to describe the gunman said he looked like a Nazi. Certainly seemed to take Kate Silverton aback.

The people of Norway will be reeling in shock at the ferocity and savagery of these attacks, and at least 91 families will be feeling the unutterable and unfathomable sadness of grief.

Now is not the time to speculate on the why’s and wherefore’s of yesterday’s events. There will be time for blame and recrimination later. Neither is it time for people to speculate on the future. The Norwegian Authorities will investigate, conclusions will be drawn and reccommendations made.

Now is the time to concentrate on the victims and their families.

Regards,

kev35

The news of the bombing in Oslo centre is shocking enough, but the apparent cool and deliberate actions of the gunman and horrendously helpless situation for the people on that island is beyond any normal comprehension.
Unbelievable that this can happen within such a peaceful and organised nation.
I know there are a handful of forumites from Norway in historic, best wishes to the Norwegian people and anyone here with family and friend over there.

The Daily Mail has a report on the suspected perpetrator

HERE

Waking this morning to the news that there is at least 91 dead is sickening. But to be honest the news that he appears to have had extreme right wing tendancies is not a surprize. Unfortunately there are all too many of that particular brand of nutcases on the rise and in particular in certain parts of Europe. These far right lunatics are an area that has been largely ignored since the advent of extremist Islam. Do not be surprized if this is not the last example of their kind in action that we see. After all there are plenty more like him.

I hope this prime example of humankind gone wrong, rots in his own particlar kind of hell.

This news gets more and more awful as it unfolds, If this is the “work” of one man its somehow makes it even more terrible.
I have been to many cities in Europe and always found Oslo to be a calm friendly city where terrorism and shootings would be the last thing you would expect.

It appears the family friends I have there are OK, My thoughts are with those who are effected. I hope the police and security forces get the answers needed to explain this and I hope Oslo and it people bounce back and be strong.

Never let terror win