BOND… a big smash!

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Star Trek is cool! I love it. Looking forward to the new film. :9
That Aston Martin was a joke too. Like many toys.

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Ad0nis, haven’t you noticed that they are finally going to merge the James Bond and Star Trek series?

Just think of it, thinkin about DAD…
[li]Q (as in any Bond film),
[li]cloaking device (no matter if you use it for an Aston Martin or for a Klingon bird of prey,
[li]Holodeck (not just for Worf or Monneypenney’s sexual fantasies),
[li]A bad guy in the end looking more than just a little bit like a Borg,

In a few years we’ll definately see commander James T. Bond of the USS Merchand… euh, Enterprise 🙂

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If you had full control of the next JB adventure what would you have JB doin…i def would have him go back to the basic espionage thrillers of the past where sci-fi meddling is at a minimal level.

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I give the film 6 points out of 10.
Hoped it was better 🙁

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Just saw it last night, and i enjoyed myself thoroughly. Haille Barri and Rosamund Pike are tough to choose between, the gadgets were completely over the top as they should be (with a holodeck and cloacking device it’s becoming a bit like Star Trek), and finally there are commie bad guys again.

Just a few complaints though…
[li]An-124s don’t have glazed noses.
[li]If you want to show sattelite pics of an An-124 on a North Korean airbase, better make sure the aircraft isn’t parked between P-3 Orions.
[li]How many cabriolets would be driving around in Iceland?

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ad0nis – Yeah, I know… but Bond has been captured in every single bond film… and has always escaped quickly… relatively unscathed.

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and fleming should know what agents are supposed to be like………

coanda

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I finally saw it today. There is nothing British about 007. American movie, American cars, and American technology.

Sam.

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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 28-11-02 AT 04:00 PM (GMT)]GZYL

I quite enjoyed the new Bond. I didn’t like watching the ultimate escape artist being imprisoned and beaten up for 14 months though… It’s just not right!!

we sometimes have to add a sense or normallity to the plot because believe it or not spies do get caught now & again!

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He was indeed a fantastic Bond, in spite of a perceived lack of charisma. The interviews he gave at the time his two films were released prove he had a superb understanding of the character and really delvd deeply into Fleming’s books to steer the series back towards a more serious approach.

I think Brosnan has also said recently he has been reading the books. In my opinion, Dalton did a tremendous job, but was slighlty too theatrical in places. Brosnan captures the essence of 007, but in a more subtle way. There are still many moments where he makes Bond’s inner turmoil quite obvious. A grand job.

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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 28-11-02 AT 12:50 PM (GMT)]..but the moments of serious Bondian atmopshere or the character development (a more human Bond rather than a robot who runs around with no feelings or pain) are a real treat for those of us who consider Fleming’s Bond as The reference.

And it was for this very reason I loved Tim Dalton as Bond, becasue he went back to the books and played the character as per Fleming’s persona of the guy. 🙂

Regards, Glenn.

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Hi munnst,

I think the quote you mentioned is actually from Never Say Never Again, isn’t it?
And the new films do have slightly risqué puns on names, such as Xenia Onatop”.

I haven’t seen the new film yet. I have to say though that, as a recovering harcore Bond fan, the question of the films and their merits used to figure prominently on my thoughts for many years.
I personally think that Conery’s films are by and large overrated in the sense that they initiated the departure from a straight and conventional take on Bond.
Goldfinger is, in my opinion the guilty party. It’s veered off from the taut thriller atmosphere of From Russia With Love and started pandering to the general public. All good and well and indispensible to keep the series afloat and profitable, but in my view, a bit of a shame all the same.

It all depends on your starting point in the Bond cannon. If it’s teh films, then your expectations and reference points will be those of the screen, with all their qualities and flaws. If on the other hand it’s Fleming’s books, you will always tend to look for the essence of the literary Bond in the films. Granted, you make allowances for the scenes included for the general public, but to see a human, vulnerable, complex and bitter Bond is a real treat for those who hark back to the original books.
I think that Brosnan has really got it all, the looks fit in with Fleming’s description, he has a bit of humour, but nothing ludicrously over the top, and shows the vulnerability of the man which Fleming emphasized so often.

My only quibble with the new films are the little “jokes” included for the benefit of the general audiance, such as Bond straightening his tie after the collision in GE and under the water in TWINE. (apparently, that was Brosnan’s idea…). The only blemish in GE in my view was the tank chase in St Petersburg. The score typified everything about the desire to rub the general public the right way up. (the score for that scene written by Eric Serra was a lot better in my view) and the scene was treated with too much childish humour. Shame, because it was quite impressively shot.

It will be hard for the filmmakers to move away from the formula everyone expects now from a Bond film, but the moments of serious Bondian atmopshere or the character development (a more human Bond rather than a robot who runs around with no feelings or pain) are a real treat for those of us who consider Fleming’s Bond as The reference.

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I quite enjoyed the new Bond. I didn’t like watching the ultimate escape artist being imprisoned and beaten up for 14 months though… It’s just not right!!

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I can’t WAIT to see it!! 🙂

Dec.12 it opens in Oz, and so far its broken Bond film records at the box office as well. When Bond is away for 3 years instead of 2 it seems to make people more wanting… including me.

Regards, Glenn.

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I enjoyed the rest of the film a great deal.

But if you look at the bond films nowadys, they are getting more high tech, for instance, in the world is not enough, the scene where there is amoving active bomb in the oil pipe line, and JB and Xmas Jones go in to disarm, only to fail and have a very narrow escape.

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A330crazy

Yeah!!! there were shrieks of embarassment in the cinema and even my gal had to cover her eyes to that scene because JB took it to an unbelievable level, did u enjoy the rest of the film??, what other parts did u not enjoy??

regards

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Best bond film was the one with little nellie (bombom bom bombom bom)

If you visit Harrods of Knightsbridge they have the Bond cars in the store.

“Oh Mr Bond i’ve made you all wet?”

“Yesh, but my Martini is dry!”

(Ursula Andress to Connery in the wet swim suit sceen)

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Adonis I do have to agree with you about the Ice berg scene, very far fetched! 🙁

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I like classical Bond, Sean Conety is the true bond and thats it.. Roger Moore comes in second and rest is crap.. Since P.B took over the Bond role.. the series have been infected with Hollywood virus, resulting in loss of that typical british style/humot (who can forget the “pussy galore” ), no style or charm, too much explosions, way over the top, to much comercialisation, in other words same typical crap that hollywood makes for your typical ignorant easily impresed and clules person.

I dont think ill be going to see the new one… insted i might go and purchase all the Connery series on DVD.

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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 26-11-02 AT 02:14 PM (GMT)]Since when are bond films sci-fi??? bond films have always been pure & simply espionage thrillers with a bit of help from Q section.

Die another day is too far fetched with JB being blasted by Icurus on the side of the iceberg, anyother person would have fallen off but NOT ULTRACOOL JB!! he once again asserts his rep by surfing with the roof of the super jetcar and a ratty parachute on tsunamis the size of skyscrapers!! 😮

An Ivnivisable car!!!!! please this is gettin ridiculous x( i think after Mission impossible 2 they wanted to re-assert JB top of the tree for super hero spies, there’s no doubt about it, you can’t imagine roger moore and Sean ” i must be dreamin” Connery in these roles 2day….they made the character james bond their own not by using over elaborate stunts and gizmos but by portraying JB to be a super cool spy which has to use his brain to get out of sticky situations.

there..i’ve had my moan!! but i found myself sitting there shakin my head at every inplausible scene and just wishin someone with half a brain could have taken this film and shot it like they used to back in the day 🙁