I wonder if someone could help me identify the bezel colours on this b&w image below.
Almost certainly the Boost gauges are red, I’ve never seen another colour of this type.
One point of interest is that the shades are different for port and stbd it seems (except for the Boost gauges).
Any help greatly appreciated.
By: Matty - 26th October 2011 at 20:17
There are different shades of green as well, here is mine, 1937 Dated
Looking to match the colour at the moment as I am repairing some damage to the bezel.
The oil temp is the Orange (ish) one.
Good luck with the project.
Ant.
Thanks Ant. That RAD temps gauge doesn’t even look green or blue! Looks like a faded orange!
By: Matty - 26th October 2011 at 20:17
There are different shades of green as well, here is mine, 1937 Dated
Looking to match the colour at the moment as I am repairing some damage to the bezel.
The oil temp is the Orange (ish) one.
Good luck with the project.
Ant.
Thanks Ant. That RAD temps gauge doesn’t even look green or blue! Looks like a faded orange!
By: Firebex - 26th October 2011 at 18:38
A lot of people dont realise the Whirlwind was designed in 1936 and first flew in 1938 so technicaly it is pre war and the initial pre and production machines will most probably have used the earlier pre war style gauges.In fact The AP marks the differences very pointedly with the fact the changes all take place after a certain production machine and even some controls and gauges are changed to the opposite side of the cockpit.!!!
But as we are building a POST change machine the later and therefore more (one would hope)available gauges would be fitted ??
Mike E
By: Firebex - 26th October 2011 at 18:38
A lot of people dont realise the Whirlwind was designed in 1936 and first flew in 1938 so technicaly it is pre war and the initial pre and production machines will most probably have used the earlier pre war style gauges.In fact The AP marks the differences very pointedly with the fact the changes all take place after a certain production machine and even some controls and gauges are changed to the opposite side of the cockpit.!!!
But as we are building a POST change machine the later and therefore more (one would hope)available gauges would be fitted ??
Mike E
By: Worcs Aviation - 26th October 2011 at 18:14
There are different shades of green as well, here is mine, 1937 Dated
Looking to match the colour at the moment as I am repairing some damage to the bezel.
The oil temp is the Orange (ish) one.
Good luck with the project.
Ant.
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By: Worcs Aviation - 26th October 2011 at 18:14
There are different shades of green as well, here is mine, 1937 Dated
Looking to match the colour at the moment as I am repairing some damage to the bezel.
The oil temp is the Orange (ish) one.
Good luck with the project.
Ant.
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By: Matty - 23rd October 2011 at 21:01
Brilliant, thanks! It’ll help with the comparison if you have one of the others in the photo too (boost, oil or whatever) so we could compare to the b&w image.
Many thanks!
Matt
By: Whitley_Project - 23rd October 2011 at 20:32
It’s in the loft. I’ll try and find it for you…
It’s just a rad temp gauge but with an azure blue bezel
By: Matty - 23rd October 2011 at 17:56
Thanks chaps – now the trick is to figure out whether the Whirlwind had blue or green ones. I guess either would be correct…
Whitley, you wouldn’t be able to post a photo of your blue bezel when you get a chance would you?
By: Whitley_Project - 23rd October 2011 at 16:03
I have a rad temp gauge with a blue bezel. My understandibg is they were used on prewar aircraft with watercooled engines.
Most wartime aircraft would have used the green bezelled type of rad temp gauge.
By: Arabella-Cox - 23rd October 2011 at 11:30
Here’s the text from AP1275 I used when compiling Volume 1 of the Guides.
I must admit to not having given the subject much thought, and, being colour blind, I have problems with some shades of green and blue anyway so it may not have occurred to me to check!
This is from the April 1937 edition, reprinted in January 1939. Perhaps the convention changed later?
By: Rocketeer - 22nd October 2011 at 18:06
I have only really seen the greener shade of blue…..if you like!
By: Matty - 22nd October 2011 at 17:06
Just looked at my Hurri, it has oddly yellow oil p, rad temp is more green than blue. Looking at your pic, the oil p is likely the bright yellow as featured on mine, but that is a later gauge (1943), earlier were same as the oil temp (see my spit cockpit)
Pic of spitty here
Thanks Tony. I have this picture (below) of a bright orange OIL temp gauge, which is probably the closest shade I’ve seen to the b&w photo I have up there.
The different shades for port and stbd are still a mystery.
Also, as Mr Blue Sky mentioned, we’re led to believe the RAD temp gauges were blue…. but all I’ve ever seen are green.
By: MrBlueSky - 22nd October 2011 at 13:39
Ah, not that type, the same as Matt posted, with round bezels
By: Rocketeer - 22nd October 2011 at 11:06
Probably have. Are you talking the electric type? If so, it is on my Seafire!!
Always happy to help!
By: MrBlueSky - 22nd October 2011 at 10:02
Thanks Tony…
Does anyone have a good picture of the Blue that was later used on the bakelite bezel radiator temperature gauges please…
By: Rocketeer - 22nd October 2011 at 08:32
Just looked at my Hurri, it has oddly yellow oil p, rad temp is more green than blue. Looking at your pic, the oil p is likely the bright yellow as featured on mine, but that is a later gauge (1943), earlier were same as the oil temp (see my spit cockpit)
Pic of spitty here
By: Rocketeer - 22nd October 2011 at 08:27
boost gauges burgundy, oil T & P are same colour a ‘baby poo’ yellow brown, rad temp is a blue green, look at cockpit shots of my Hurri on my website, fuel press is burgundy/red
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