BrahMos thread – Part 2

Land-based BRAHMOS Testing in full swing: Pillai

VISAKHAPATNAM: BRAHMOS Aerospace, a Indo-Russian joint venture was now extensively testing the Army version of surface-to-surface missiles.

Talking to newspersons here, BRAHMOS CEO and MD Sivathanu Pillai said the company is now engaged in testing and manufacturing BRAHMOS missiles that can be deployed in Indian Army. The deployment was likely to take place soon, he said.

He said the task of induction of BRAHMOS into the Indian Army had been challenging as it called for various types of war heads compared to those launched from the sea. There was a sea of difference in guidance system and platform of the two versions of the missile.

“The Army version calls for different types of warheads to be used on different targets like Army concentration, hard targets like buildings or expansive targets like an air base,” he said.

The induction of anti-ship version of BRAHMOS developed for the Indian Navy had already begin and several naval warships were already carrying such missiles.

India, Russia to develop aircraft version of BrahMos missile

“Development for the aircraft version is a new initiative, which was not originally contemplated. Towards that we have added $50 million in the company as investment from both India and Russia,” CEO and MD of BrahMos Aerospace A Sivathanu Pillai told PTI in Bangalore Friday.

Pillai said the Indian Air Force would integrate the missile with Sukhoi-30 fighters. “We have now completed the feasibility study for integrating the BrahMos with Sukhoi-30 for air force. They ( The Russians ) have accepted the report and now we are in the process of making certain changes in the missile, which will suit its integration with the Sukhoi and 2007 is the target date for flying in the aircraft,” he said.

“We are going to do some more trials to meet the various requirements of the army against land targets. Once that process is over, the army would also induct the system,” he said.

According to Pillai, the Russian government, as a joint venture partner, would install the system on their ships.

“We are working out as to how to do it,” he said.

Essentially an anti-ship missile, BrahMos has a striking range of 290 km. “We have to restrict the range being a player at the international (level) now. If you want to sell the product outside (overseas), you have to follow certain conditions. That’s why we have restricted the range,” Pillai said.

“We are addressing various countries, which are friendly with us, by conducting various exhibitions and interacting with their defence ministries and at the government-to-government level,” he said.

According to Pillai, there are some countries who think the system is good, but are reluctant to buy it since India is not a big player in arms sales so far. Pillai said the cost of the BrahMos missile depends on its platform, configuration and application. “We have not finalised the cost as a standard module,” he said.

A good compro in the offensive and defensive capability of the ship .

Did the SA-N-1 undergo any upgrade ???

dont think so there were some proposals submitted but nothing was choosen.

yes there is still the 1 Sa-n-1 launcher and there is 32 barak SAM not 16.

A good compro in the offensive and defensive capability of the ship .

Did the SA-N-1 undergo any upgrade ???

So the airdefence of the Rajputs is now limited to just 16 Baraks? They have to remove the aft launcher for the VLS Bharamos.

I think they have a forward launcher as well… or did that go away as well?

yes there is still the 1 Sa-n-1 launcher and there is 32 barak SAM not 16.

I suspect the Bharamos have a range of at least 600 Kms based on how many vessels this thing is going on and the emphasis on land attack.

So the airdefence of the Rajputs is now limited to just 16 Baraks? They have to remove the aft launcher for the VLS Bharamos.

I think they have a forward launcher as well… or did that go away as well?

Does anyone have any pics of these models?

http://www.indiadefence.com/navyupdate.htm

No rajputs can only take 8 brahmos, which would increase the damage they can inflict. I believe the ranvir and ranvijay will get 8 vls brahmos while the older three can get 8 inclined brahmos box launchers. I wonder if there are any plans to equip the godavari’s with brahmos?

nope according to the model displayed they will get 8 inclined and 8 vls.

http://www.indiadefence.com/navyupdate.htm

No rajputs can only take 8 brahmos, which would increase the damage they can inflict. I believe the ranvir and ranvijay will get 8 vls brahmos while the older three can get 8 inclined brahmos box launchers. I wonder if there are any plans to equip the godavari’s with brahmos?

According to IDC rajputs will be fitted with 16 Brahmos, currently Ranvir is being fitted.

Natwar singh will probably be forced to resign within the next week. already sacked from his party post last night.

with him gone the last of the Nehruvian non-alignment third-world bhaibhai crowd will be erased from position of power.

we need pragmatists like yashwant sinha back in saddle not a theortical clown like natwar.

Govt wings at odds on Brahmos

New Delhi, Dec. 4: A joint Indo-Russian venture to export the Brahmos cruise missile to “friendly countries” has run into diplomatic hurdles and the defence ministry has now urged the ministry of external affairs to add ballast to its effort.

The Brahmos — named after the Brahmaputra and Moskva rivers — is being inducted into the Indian Navy, seven years after the joint venture was formed. Last month, defence minister Pranab Mukherjee was told in Moscow that Russia was working on fitting the missiles to some of its warships.

Russia and India have identified countries in Latin America and Africa to whom the missile can be sold, said Sivathanu Pillai, chief controller of the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) and head of the Brahmos programme.

“I cannot disclose the names. But the list has been drawn up carefully after studying the diplomatic considerations of both India and Russia. We were told in Moscow by (Russian defence minister) Sergei Ivanov’s team that they were very interested in exporting it. The export consideration has been part of the Brahmos programme since the agreement was reached in 1998,” Pillai said.

Pillai has himself been at the head of efforts to promote the missile. But the response of Indian missions abroad was not encouraging. On a visit to a Southeast Asian nation, for instance, the Indian ambassador had to be coaxed to attend the DRDO’s stall at an exhibition when a military delegation from the host nation was scheduled to visit.

Pillai and his team are promoting it as the only missile in its class. The Brahmos is a supersonic cruise missile. Launched from a ship, it flies at 2 mach (twice the speed of sound, making it supersonic) with a conventional warhead weighing up to 200 kg. It is said to have a range of 290 km, a little less than the Missile Technology Control Regime ceiling of 300 km. It can be fired from multiple platforms (ship, land, submarine and air).

The Indian naval ship, INS Rajput, has been equipped with the missile. The Russians and Indians are now working out the techniques to arm Amur (diesel) submarines with it. The Indian Army will induct a road and rail mobile version by 2007 and a short air force version will arm the Sukhoi 30 fighter aircraft by that year.

But despite the defence establishment’s belief that the Brahmos can be a starting point for the Indian defence industry to probe the global military market, the foreign ministry has been less than encouraging so far. Delhi does not want to be seen as a proliferator of weapons, goes the argument.

But Pillai countered by saying India has an impeccable record and it has its own laws against arms proliferation. Besides, the Brahmos is a corporatised entity that enjoys more flexibility than Indian ordnance factories.

DRDO officials are now visiting international military hardware exhibitions equipped with slide shows and audio-visual presentations to demonstrate the missile’s efficacy.

Will the submarine version be underwater launch capable?

sferrin, have you heard of the 3m long and 2m wide trishul SAM ?
comes from the same reporting sources.

I have heard a weight of 2.4 tons quoted for brahmos-A. that is 5280lb. I dont think it
can carry more than 2. how many 5000lb GBU-28 can the F15E carry ? 2 max ?

On the Eagle the centerline and two inner wing pylons are all rated at 5000lbs. Not sure what the max on the CFTs are but I’ve seen many pics with them hanging two 2000 LGBs on each. The F-22 will have four 5000lb rated pylons and the F-35 two.

“BrahMos Aerospace, the missile joint venture between India and Russia, is all set to make the air version of the world’s only supersonic missile “

Boy these guys don’t mind laying on the BS thick do they?

I have heard a weight of 2.4 tons quoted for brahmos-A. that is 5280lb. I dont think it
can carry more than 2. how many 5000lb GBU-28 can the F15E carry ? 2 max ?

its probably better it just carry one under the belly or two on the flanks / innermost pylon to preserve some agility.

maybe two more NSM underbelly to keep Jonesy pacified 😀

according to the earliar article up there the wings need to be strengthened in order to carry brahmos in underwing pylons…

With 2500 Kg quoted for brahmos A, Su-30 can carry 3. The load capacity for MKI was 8000 kg if I remember, but that i guess would be pushing it.

I have heard a weight of 2.4 tons quoted for brahmos-A. that is 5280lb. I dont think it
can carry more than 2. how many 5000lb GBU-28 can the F15E carry ? 2 max ?

its probably better it just carry one under the belly or two on the flanks / innermost pylon to preserve some agility.

maybe two more NSM underbelly to keep Jonesy pacified 😀