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Brand new HP Halifax and others

Revell have just issued a brand new tooling kit of the Handley Page Halifax II in 1:72nd, about time that there is a good quailty version of this aircraft, we can only hope that a Stirling joins this and the newer Lancaster kits.

With these new releases you really have to watch out for what you are buying from model shops.
For example Revell (& Modelcraft) re-released in their own modern boxing the old Matchbox Halifax II/III & GR.II and the older Lancaster kit.
The old Halifix kit does have one advantage though, having the Coastal Command option with the different nose and fins/rudders.
The new kit looks like it as been moulded with later variants in mind

Airfix have just released a brand new tooling of the Fairey Swordfish, and in a similar vein you really don’t want to get this mixed up with the old kit if you can help it.

This is an ever increasing trend as the big model producers are now making new kits of subjects that haven’t been created for a long while, inevitably both new and old mouldings of asubject will share teh shelves for a little while.
If in doubt and you are serious about purchasing a kit, ask the shop owner if you can peek inside the box.

Other nice releases recently include the fantastic reissued Airfix 1:48th Lightnings, Italeri 1:48th Hunter (rebox of Academys’ kit), Grumman Tracker, and Revell A-400M in 1:72nd scale.

With other mainstream releases such as the Airfix Valiant, Harriers, Sabres (F-86E & RAF F.4), Sea Vixen, Nimrod, hordes of Spitfires in 1:72nd & 1:48th, Revell & Hasegawa Lancasters, we’ve probably never had it so good!:)

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By: DBenz - 18th January 2012 at 23:46

Cabbage,

I was excited and thankful to see the Revell stand at SMW telford 2011 with a Halifax B MkII S 1 as I didnt even know it was coming out. I must agree though with the criticisms that whilst a few minor errors may be forgiven and tweaked, as manufacturers are incapable of getting things right ( dont know why though when we immediately spot errors, so why cant they), the errors on this halifax go beyond the norm. The engines spinners and props are plain wrong looking, fat fat fat !. The correct kit engines wil fit inside, yes inside, the Revell offerings, considering the thick plastic walls thats some error. Just doesnt look right. The intakes at front are noticeably wrong and it doesnt look halifax. B17 blades…what a clanger, and lanc-ish spinners, they should be conical. They didnt even look at a photo,, plan or the real thing. Its beyond a modellers abilities to fix easily. Its hard to forgive this. They should be holding an internal enquiry, I cant recall the last time so many errors featured in a kit.

I still want to be grateful for them doing the Halifax, but this…?:confused:

In this day and age such errors shouldnt happen, or are they struggling for decent staff, enough unemployed engineers out there who could do better.

I have to side with the miffed brigade, and start saving up for all the resin fixes I’ll need to get a Halifax looking like one. Entire wing assembly in fact.

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By: pagen01 - 17th January 2012 at 18:07

I’ve not seen the kit and was unaware of the inaccuracies until I saw the link, and I agree part of modelling for most people is about doing your own work on kits, but surely it is a fair question to ask why a renowned manufacturer of 50 years or so can make these sorts of mistakes in an age when you expect kits to be fairly precise?
Especially when the old Matchbox kit actually seems to be more accurate, if more basic or crude.

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By: cabbage - 17th January 2012 at 16:46

All the moans about this new release really gets my back up.

What I see as a few minor inaccuracies, are being blown all out of proportion.

Instead of condemming the model, lets celebrate the fact that Revell had the courage to release a model of a much neglected WW2 bomber.

It wouldn’t take a rocket scientist to correct the propeller blades with a knife and sandpaper, and the bombbay doors could easily be cut and repositioned.

My view is that if you don’t like what you see in the model, don’t buy it. Leave it in the shops for those of us who want to build a Halifax, and don’t mind a few minor inaccuracies.

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By: pagen01 - 17th January 2012 at 13:49

Sad to read, it makes you wonder how in this day and age manufacturers can get things like this wrong?

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By: DBenz - 16th January 2012 at 03:18

paul178…If you really want perfection from the Halifax kit open the link otherwise build OOB

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/i…=234910320&hl=

What is being found on the forums, and this link is probably the best you give, is that the Halifax does not look like the real thing, props, spinners, intakes, engine size, wheels, the list is endless. Revell have really screwed up regards accuracy. Yes its got 4 engines and at a quick glance its a MkII series 1 but as soon as photos of the real thing are looked at, its obvious they have goofed. Damn shame after years of waiting. Reading the latter part of this thread sees even more cons listed to those at the start. Its all a case of whether you want it sort of looking like a halifax MkII s 1 or capturing the true look, in which case follow this articles build mods, and a lot of surgery is called for.

I hope they dont even give thought to the Stirling, they will certainly screw that up bigtime as they dont exist in the flesh. Maybe Airfix might do a 1/48 Stirling, impressive beast of a kit if they did, and they would get the shape right, somehow Airfix manage such things.

I also wish they (Revell and Airfix) would do subtle panel lines at this scale, not go back to trenches as their new(Revell)B17 has and Airfix’s Me110 and Spitfire. Shape is good but ruined with trenches which I had thought had gone away with the demise of Matchbox.

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By: wl745 - 9th January 2012 at 00:12

new models

Wot no MK1 or MK2 shackelton!!Shame on them!!

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By: paul178 - 8th January 2012 at 22:14

If you really want perfection from the Halifax kit open the link otherwise build OOB

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=234910320&hl=

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By: pagen01 - 26th December 2011 at 21:14

Interesting report, but I can’t open the link to the original source.

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By: Bruce - 26th December 2011 at 18:34

You want new kits?

Check out this link from Britmodeller:

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=234909651

1/32 P61………

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By: pagen01 - 24th December 2011 at 12:48

Very nice! Italeri stuff has been good so it should be ok, though it seems like something that airfix should have done.
I’m still waiting for the Trumpeter 1:32nd Shackleton!:p

Other boxings to watch out for are the Revell Gannet, the latest incarnation is absolutely fantastic (better than the Trumpeter one even), but the other fairly recent reboxing is based on the extremely basic original Frog kit! I wonder how many excited kids have seen a build up review of the former, but received the latter in their stockings!
Like wise the Revell Canberra B(I).8 is the very basic Frog kit, while the Airfix offering is a superb recent tooling.

I’m not knocking the older kits btw, they have their place with more patient modellers, but it is a case of buyer beware.
Happy Christmas:)

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By: Airfixtwin - 24th December 2011 at 01:10

They’ve got as far as the artwork!

I believe it’s a joint venture with MPM. And as I’m tackling their Hudson at the minute, I have to say I’d prefer Revell or Airfix to have a go at it.

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By: Martin Garrett - 23rd December 2011 at 18:38

I really believe that we are in what will one day be viewed as a golden age of modelling. I can’t think of a time where we have been so well catered for in terms of subjects. If it is British subjects that float your boat we have been well looked after the last twelve months or so. Sea Vixens, Hawks, Tornado’s, Lightnings, Valiant, Swordfish and of course the odd Spit or two.

Roll on 2012 and beyond.

Regards Martin

BTW rumour has it Italeri are bringing out a 1/72nd Sunderland

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By: Airfixtwin - 23rd December 2011 at 18:04

The FW-200 that Revell recently released is another one that you need to be aware there’s an older kit of.

I have to say I’m impressed by some of the stuff Airfix have done recently, and the Halifax from Revell is very welcome.

As Pagen01 says, lets see a Stirling now! And a Sunderland V too!

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By: AdlerTag - 23rd December 2011 at 16:30

This is what the finished article looks like, not my build I hasten to point out!

http://www.ipmsdeutschland.de/Flugzeuge/Wiegmann/Rev_Halifax_B_II_series1/Rev_Halifax_BMk_II_72.html

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By: Blue_2 - 23rd December 2011 at 14:10

One for the stash I think! Don’t forget Airfix are punting the excellent 1/48 Seafire 47 again too 🙂

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