February 15, 2004 at 12:04 pm
Here is SAS A330, SE-REF, at EKKA on Friday the 13’th. It is less than three weeks old.
Best Regards
atc pal
By: Sonnenflieger - 10th April 2004 at 00:13
Disgusting livery indeed… it looks like an epileptic attack, albeit very Scandinavian in design but it just looks cold, uninviting and distant. The cabin design is very nice though. The Viking longship livery is missed by many…
By: Arabella-Cox - 9th April 2004 at 22:57
Oh AWFUL livery…..the A330 really does look a bum on tacky schemes…
Like a bum???hehe!
…well,I think it looks like a toilet! :rolleyes:
By: Bmused55 - 9th April 2004 at 22:51
Originally posted by A380!!
Oh AWFUL livery…..the A330 really does look a bum on tacky schemes…
for once, I’ll agree with you.
Badly draw, un inspiring livery. Probably dreamt up by a pen pusher behind a desk who has no idea about liveries
By: A380!! - 9th April 2004 at 20:54
Oh AWFUL livery…..the A330 really does look a bum on tacky schemes…
By: MEA380 - 9th April 2004 at 19:24
This plane just looks great, I’m a huge fan of the A330 !!
By: greekdude1 - 9th April 2004 at 19:12
Originally posted by Sonnenflieger
Long answer to a short question, hope you didn’t fall asleep…;)
Not at all. I appreciate the informative responses.
By: Sonnenflieger - 9th April 2004 at 18:41
Originally posted by greekdude1
Thanks Hans. You mentioned the last 747 service operating to JFK; when was the last 747 service to LAX? I could have swore I saw them there later than when you mentioned, but I could be wrong.
I don’t know when the last 747 to LAX was. I think I have seen a photo of a SAS 747 at LAX in 1984, but other than that it was a DC-10 destination for most of the time. 747s were operated at some point to most intercontinental destinations though; in North America it was New York, Chicago, Montreal, Seattle and Los Angeles. All destinations but New York went from DC-8 to DC-10 service in the 70s, with 747s filling in if there was need. Chicago was seasonally served by 747s from Copenhagen until the mid 80s if I remember correctly.
Until the mid- to late 80s, SAS’ flew to New York not only from Stockholm, Copenhagen and Oslo but also from Gothenburg (Sweden) and Bergen (Norway). Example of routeings; Gothenburg-Oslo Gardermoen-New York, Stockholm-Bergen-New York, Copenhagen-Oslo-New York. As GOT and BGO’s New York connections were suspended in the late 80’s, OSL/CPH/ARN got non-stop services to New York with DC-10s – switching from JFK to Newark in 1989 because of the partnership with Continental.
Major SAS 747 operations ended in the early 80s, around ’83-’84 when up to four of the six aircraft were leased out. One of them, LN-RNA, was lost in Madrid in 1983 whilst operated by Avianca. From 1984 to 1987, SAS and Scanair shared the two aircraft left in the fleet.
Long answer to a short question, hope you didn’t fall asleep…;)
By: greekdude1 - 9th April 2004 at 17:56
Thanks Hans. You mentioned the last 747 service operating to JFK; when was the last 747 service to LAX? I could have swore I saw them there later than when you mentioned, but I could be wrong.
By: Sonnenflieger - 9th April 2004 at 17:40
Originally posted by greekdude1
That picture is really old-school. Some of my cousins flew SAS back in 1988, I believe, LAX-CPH-ATH. They still had 747’s at that time. Any idea why: 1) They dumped the 747’s; 2) stopped serving LAX; and 3) stopped serving ATH for a while (I believe they have started again, unless they are still code-sharing with Maersk).
1) New business travel-oriented strategies from 1981 onwards meant that SAS started more nonstop routes from other Scandinavian cities than Copenhagen; thus there was no need for large 747s and A300s waiting to be filled with connecting passengers at CPH. Instead, the DC-9 fleet was refurbished and a few second-hand DC-10s were bought. From 1984, there were only two 747s in SAS service; N4501Q and N4502R, operating the JFK routes mainly. Both were combi versions. Last 747 service was operated on 17 May 1987, JFK-CPH.
2) LAX was cancelled in 1994 due to the small number of business travellers on the CPH-LAX route. Up to 80% of the tickets sold were Tourist Class ones, and since two aircraft were needed for this route to operate daily, it was suspended. Before the current crisis, there were talks of opening a new route to San Francisco; it might happen in the future.
3) Not sure why the ATH route was closed, probably similar to LAX with too few business travellers. Last year or so, Snowflake started flying to Athens recently, SAS re-opened the route with own aircraft flying CPH-ATH.
By: Airline owner - 9th April 2004 at 13:22
someones been digging for this thread;)
By: atc pal - 9th April 2004 at 13:18
And the runway is nicely swept at the same time!;)
By: atc pal - 9th April 2004 at 13:13
Just an up-date as I got the wet film developed. The A330 uses the same inner pylons as the A340 – very apparent in this shot.
By: Kenneth - 18th February 2004 at 18:26
Any idea why: 1) They dumped the 747’s;
In the mid-eighties the CEO Jan Carlzon decided that SAS should become the “Business Man’s Airline” with more flights using smaller aircraft. The B747 was too big for this and the aircraft were sold.
By: greekdude1 - 18th February 2004 at 04:04
That picture is really old-school. Some of my cousins flew SAS back in 1988, I believe, LAX-CPH-ATH. They still had 747’s at that time. Any idea why: 1) They dumped the 747’s; 2) stopped serving LAX; and 3) stopped serving ATH for a while (I believe they have started again, unless they are still code-sharing with Maersk).
By: Bhoy - 18th February 2004 at 03:50
This is the Viking colour scheme. http://www.airliners.net/open.file/494336/M/
By: greekdude1 - 18th February 2004 at 02:57
Originally posted by robc
The red engines dont really go with the star alliance livery but its a change.
I think they add some spice to it, actually. Is the Viking colour scheme the old one?
By: Arabella-Cox - 16th February 2004 at 17:56
I think I saw a pic of it in airlinerworld,
oh by the way,I’m new here,HHHHHIIIII!!!!!
skylinerworld
By: steve rowell - 16th February 2004 at 09:51
That wing shot is great, the star alliance livery is “dullesville”
By: Airline owner - 16th February 2004 at 08:55
This aircraft is in the latest issue of AW. It says it is going to serve some East coast cities in America.
By: ACA345 - 16th February 2004 at 03:25
I love the plane and I love the colors, very nice. When is SQ painting some of their aircraft???