Branson to fight for Concorde

Originally posted by Hand87_5
I don’t think it’s that basic in this case since the energy is coming from friction . As far as I know the bottom of the Space shuttle is not white isn’t it professor?

Ha ha, you’re absolutely right. Did I mention I dropped out of Physics class at an early stage ? 😀

Originally posted by Ren Frew
It’s basic year one physics really… white reflects heat and black absorbs it. How many radiators do you see painted black after all ?

Still, it’s not so long since Virgin was a predominately white schemed airline. The old colours wouldn’t look so bad. Over to you Matthew Murray…:)

I don’t think it’s that basic in this case since the energy is coming from friction . As far as I know the bottom of the Space shuttle is not white isn’t it professor?

Mr. Branson is a master of publicity. I don’t think he has any intention of flying the Concorde… not because he wouldn’t like to, but because he knows British Airways would rather sink their Concordes into the River Thames then ever see Branson operate them.

Think about it!!! With all the news he’s been putting out within the past week, he can launch Virgin America New York JFK to Baghdad on the Concorde. :p 😀

I’m really only guessing here but would I be right in thinking that only a specific percentage of the Concorde airframe would have to be white in order for any attatched decals etc to stay on the surface?

Or they can just revice a new c/s fr Concorde.

personaly i am against to see Concorde in Virgin colours.

I can’t see why it can’t be just left as a white fuselage, with the Virgin tail logo put on it and the virgin titles on the front??? I dont think it would all that bad myself!

Yes It would be interesting to see a silver concorde, but it just cant be done!

With all this colour malarky and Concorde supposedly having to be painted white, how do the logos and decoration on the tails stay on the aircraft and not get ripped off?

It’s basic year one physics really… white reflects heat and black absorbs it. How many radiators do you see painted black after all ?

Still, it’s not so long since Virgin was a predominately white schemed airline. The old colours wouldn’t look so bad. Over to you Matthew Murray…:)

No prob, Hand.

Thanx Greek. I have to admit that I missed your previous post.

Cheers

Are my posts even read on this forum? I gave a very detailed spill with an example, no less, of the whole Concorde color situation, on A330Crazy’s “Tribute to a Legend” thread. Shall I re-copy and paste it? I think I shall. Seeing as it was the last post on that thread, I’m guessing it did in fact go unread….

“Guys, save all the publicity talk for the other thread, no need for 2 of the same. As far as painting it silver goes, they couldn’t do that if they wanted to fly supersonic. AF doesn’t apply, since they’re colours are all white anyhow (even though this can be debated at times, even on Concorde!), but why do you think BA’s Concorde’s never donned the blue and grey scheme? Because the paint would just peal right off when they hit supersonic. The only time the Concorde was painted in a non-white scheme, was when Pepsi chartered it about 6 years ago, some of you might remember. It was painted all blue, except for the wings. Those flights were all flown at subsonic speeds, or else that blue paint would have come right off. The reasoning behind this is, white doesn’t get as hot as any other color because it reflects the sun’s rays, it doesn’t aborb them.”

Go on Richard-give it your best shot! I’d love to see Virgin pull this one off.

Yep , sorry about that BHOY.

I checked on AF web site . You’re correct , that’s a matter of heat.
A white painting does evacuate the heat better.

Bhoy ,

Are you positive about that?
I agree that a white color does operate well to REFLECT the heat coming from the outside , but in Concorde’s case the heat is genarated by the friction on the air at MACH 2.

Does it really matter in this case?
I suspect that the white paint used with concorde has a specific behavior….:confused:

forget about Concorde ever operating in a silver livery… it would need to be white, because of the heat build up at Mach 2.

One thing that concerns me about Virgin Atlantic operating the French-British aircraft is how it would look. Having seen Matthew Murray’s image of how it would look, I’m not so keen on the silver scheme.

I think British Airways are being rather selfish with this whole situation. They have admitted that they are not gaining anything (financially) from the aircraft and passenger numbers have been low for nearly 3 years now. If they are having no success, then why should Virgin not be given a chance.

The £1 offer I think is a little low. Obviously, British Airways only paid £1 for them, but let’s not forget inflation(!!) I remember the days when you could buy Hubba Bubba Bubble Gum for 12 pence a packet, a pretty average price. Now, it’s near enough double that, so I believe £2 is slightly better. :p

But good luck to Mr. Branson. I think his airline is exciting and just wants the chance to fly an incredible aircraft (an arguable remark) along with the rest of his incredible Boeing/Airbus fleet. Concorde still has a few years left and to see all of them cutting their lives short to be housed in a museum isn’t the best option. Some of the aircraft should fly til the day they die!

I would still ove to see get hold of them. Go on mate fight all the way.