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Brave Islamic warriors behead another American

I guess everyone here has heard this by now. Very brave men and respected spokesmen for the religion of peace. There will be lots of joy throughout the Islamic world tonight.

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By: Grey Area - 20th June 2004 at 10:25

Oh come on! David Duke! Most here were children when that idiot was taken seriously by anyone other than maybe his mother. You will have to do better than that.

What’s this then, buddy, – Scotch mist? And it’s just one site among many like it.

Just as I thought – you don’t deserve to be taken seriously and so I’ll be careful not to in the future. 😀

Excellent and perceptive posting, plawolf! As you rightly say, those who set out to demonise and/or dehumanise an opponent are always highly selective in what they quote.

Viper01 – you may find this interesting.

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By: Hand87_5 - 20th June 2004 at 07:28

Grey Area and Aries

They sat back and said nothing and have been making excuses for the last 60 yrs.
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Wrong. Helmut Kohl officially apologized in the name of Germany , for all the attrocities during the nazi regime, when he was in charge back in the 90’s.
Do you want me explain who Helmut Khol is ? 😀

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By: Arabella-Cox - 20th June 2004 at 03:45

You on the other hand being expert all all thing would never mistake a Canadian for an American would you.

They both live on the North American Continent. Why not call both Americans?

It would be amusing if Brazil, Argentina, and Chile got together an declared themselves the United States of America… hehehe… or perhaps Georgia, the Ukraine and Serbia decided to become the European Union… hehehe.

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By: Sauron - 20th June 2004 at 01:09

Exactly.

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By: Ren Frew - 20th June 2004 at 01:04

It seems to me that Hitler and his madmen made many public statements. There is lots of film available of his pronoucements. Did the German people not understand?

Do the Muslim men and boys who attend the weekly hare speak in the M-E not understand Arabic?

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Propaganda old son, propaganda ! 😀

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By: Sauron - 20th June 2004 at 01:02

It seems to me that Hitler and his madmen made many public statements. There is lots of film available of his pronoucements. Did the German people not understand?

Do the Muslim men and boys who attend the weekly hare speak in the M-E not understand Arabic?

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By: Ren Frew - 20th June 2004 at 00:55

As far as a the Nazi’s are concerned, were did the vast majority of Germans stand on the issue of extermination of the Jews not to mention others?

I was under the impression that the vast majority of 1930’s Germans had no idea what the true activities of their distinguished political leaders were ? A charge you could perhaps throw in the direction of political leaders of the world in general ?

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By: Sauron - 20th June 2004 at 00:48

Grey Area and Aries

Oh come on! David Duke! Most here were children when that idiot was taken seriously by anyone other than maybe his mother. You will have to do better than that.

As far as a the Nazi’s are concerned, were did the vast majority of Germans stand on the issue of extermination of the Jews not to mention others? They listened to Hitler and his madmen and what did they do about it? Nothing! They sat back and said nothing and have been making excuses for the last 60 yrs. So if you want to draw parallels between what happened then and the raving Islamic morons who preach hatred everyday in the M-E, then fine, but where do the majority of folks in the Islamic world stand? If they don’t support these idiots and the official bull-roar that is available for all to see from the M-E governments and the mullahs who spew out their weely hate, then let them speak. Let them show a little courage.

Calling others racist is to easy.

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By: Flood - 20th June 2004 at 00:14

Calling all Muslims barbaric killers based on the actions of a few mentally ill people is not fair. Its like calling all Germans Nazis, which is racist/sterotypical and above all moronic.

I Hope that you have learnt something Sauron

Won’t admit it though…

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By: BY767 - 19th June 2004 at 23:11

Everyone will agree that there are no words to describe this horror. No cause can justify this.
As someone said above , those scum have nothing to do with Islam , God or whoever.
It would be an heavy mistake to associate all muslim people with those freaks.

All my sympathy to the family.

I couldn’t agree more with you Hand!!!

They are just filthy disgusting freaks who quite frankly don’t even have the right to live on this earth after what they did but people cannot kill them because you are doing what they did although the circumstances are so different it may be justified to kill them afterall. According to some peoplpe two wrongs don’t make a right, bit is that true?

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By: plawolf - 19th June 2004 at 22:18

it is simply idiotic to brand an entire people or religion based on the moranic and barbaric acts of a few murderous scum.

if some people would do less condeming and more listening/reading, then maybe they would see the truth, which is that the vast majority of muslims are actually quite peacelving, and it is only a very small minority of extremists that do most of the violent acts. (does anyone honestly believe that the world would see so few attrocities if even a small fraction of the 1billion+ muslims in the world were as some here have described? :rolleyes: )

as for texts on ‘Christians and Jews and others and the essential message is if you can’t convert them to Islam, then kill them. Many of the officials of Islam preach violence on a daily basis. Facts are facts.’

well since you dont speak arabic, then those texts must have been translations. and need i point out what kind of texts would be considered worth translating into english for western consumption? :rolleyes:

also, the existance of such texts cant really be that suprising to anyone with some basic history knowledge. ever heard of a ‘little’ event call the crusade? do the slightest bit of research and you will see that some of the things those crusaders did were far worse then what ‘outraged’ you. :rolleyes:

fair enough its been a very long time, but its hard to move on when you have suffered such injustice, especially when there have never been any attempt at reconsiliation on the part of the west to try and heal those old scares, and people have a tendency to be unforgiving and unforgetful of such things.

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By: Aries - 19th June 2004 at 19:38

Calling all Muslims barbaric killers based on the actions of a few mentally ill people is not fair. Its like calling all Germans Nazis, which is racist/sterotypical and above all moronic.

I Hope that you have learnt something Sauron

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By: Grey Area - 19th June 2004 at 19:30

I think you are a little out of date when you have to refer to the KKK. Surely you can do better than that and give us something more current.

Sauron, if you really believe that the KKK have faded into the mists of time, then you don’t deserve to be taken seriously. Ever heard of David Duke, for example?

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By: Hand87_5 - 19th June 2004 at 10:30

Everyone will agree that there are no words to describe this horror. No cause can justify this.
As someone said above , those scum have nothing to do with Islam , God or whoever.
It would be an heavy mistake to associate all muslim people with those freaks.

All my sympathy to the family.

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By: Ren Frew - 19th June 2004 at 10:26

If you’re willing to cut a fellow’s head off then you are a thug and there’s no excuses. No need for theology or sociology in this discussion.

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By: Snapper - 19th June 2004 at 06:30

Didn’t realise you were a Canuck old boy. That explains the irony. Great place that, good for training pilots and shooting your own fireside rugs.

I think you should read up about ‘the people of the book’, you may get surprised by how Islam views Christians and Jews.

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By: Sauron - 19th June 2004 at 03:46

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This is the third time that spokesmen for Islam have cut an Americans head off and sent video to all the M-E networks so everyone can get a good look look. I say ‘spokesmen’ rather than ‘spokesperson’ because we all know that Muslims regard women as chattel.

I gather that because you mentioned Abu Ghraib you feel that what happened there is more or less the same as cutting peoples heads off with a knife. I may have it all wrong. I mean maybe you really do believe that stripping a Muslim male or being rough on suspected terrorists, is a crime equivalent to cutting someones head off.

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By: Sauron - 19th June 2004 at 02:08

Believe me Flood I am not waiting for anything from you.

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By: Flood - 19th June 2004 at 00:38

Are you waiting for me to claim that my view of Canadians is influenced by South Park?

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By: Sauron - 19th June 2004 at 00:36

Grey Area

Well I am not a Christian so you can defend it. I only know that these thugs as you call them are Muslims and they are advocating the murder of non-Muslims and quoting Islamic material. Now I don’t speak Arabic but I have read a little about Islam and many statements are made about Christians and Jews and others and the essential message is if you can’t convert them to Islam, then kill them. Many of the officials of Islam preach violence on a daily basis. Facts are facts.

I think you are a little out of date when you have to refer to the KKK. Surely you can do better than that and give us something more current.

Flood

Snapper may be a little fuzzy about Canadian versus U.S. geography. It seems to be common among some Brits and I think it’s the relative size of Canada versus the UK that puts them off stride. 😉 You on the other hand being expert all all thing would never mistake a Canadian for an American would you. :rolleyes:

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