Just wondering if anyone can help me here please. Bristol Freighter GA-IFF crashed in May 1949 off Portland while on a test flight and there is an eye witness account. Part of what was thought to be a wing was seen to fall into the sea separate from the main aircraft, seems likely this was in fact the fin. The aircrafts loss was reported as being due to failure of the fin due to over stress. My question is would this be something that was proved after salvaging the aircraft or a conclusion reached with background knowledge and is there any evidence that this aircraft was ever salvaged. Thanks in advance.
By: snafu - 28th September 2013 at 02:56
Little bit of Photoshop and we could get the other going for you…;o)
By: grahame knott - 27th September 2013 at 22:52
Thanks all for a great response, never ceases to amaze me how much knowledge there is here. Nice bonus to see a picture snafu and interesting to see her running on one. Thanks again G
By: snafu - 27th September 2013 at 22:24
There was a picture on Evilbay recently of G-AIFF (note the correct registration):
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LARGE-ORIGINAL-VINTAGE-PHOTO-BRISTOL-FREIGHTER-B170-G-AIFF-IN-FLIGHT-/130936576320
By: Truculent AME - 27th September 2013 at 21:49
This aircraft was the first of 2 aircraft that suffered tail failure due to air loads produced with an engine out.
The second one I believe gave up the reason upon examination.
The Mk31 and after models with the larger engines had a different dorsal fin and the addition of an interconnect mechanism for the aileron and elevator control. This was to prevent “cross control – and side slipping the aircraft. If you put full rudder input you could not get the corresponding direction of aileron. If you put in full aileron you could not get corresponding rudder input. It was a weird system but I guess it fixed that issue.
I posted the diagram in this link http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?81252-WAS-CF-QWJ-Ex-G-AMLP-The-Last-Long-Nose-Bristol-Freighter-Flying
I had no idea I had a submarine named after me!!!!:eagerness:
Truc
By: Lazy8 - 27th September 2013 at 16:24
Found this account, which suggests it was not recovered:
http://www.sheppeywebsite.co.uk/index.php?id=119
By: Resmoroh - 27th September 2013 at 16:18
Grahame, Hi,
Quite a lot of info via Google – provided you key-in the correct UK a/c reg letters – (http://www.sheppeywebsite.co.uk/index.php?id=119,
http://www.cnapg.net/freighter.htm,
http://glostransporthistory.visit-gloucestershire.co.uk/JetAgeRMC_Bristol170.htm). But as Ross says, looks like a TNA visit! Best of luck,
HTH
Resmoroh
By: grahame knott - 27th September 2013 at 16:12
Many thanks Ross, need to get my head around aircraft records, more used to ships as you know.
By: Ross_McNeill - 27th September 2013 at 14:58
Hi Grahame,
Best get it from the horses mouth so to speak.
Pop along to the National Archives at Kew and look at the Board of Trade reports into the accident
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=C576651
BT 217/2497
and
BT 217/2509
These should give what was recovered and how the conclusion was reached.
Regards
Ross
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