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Bristol Freighter Vs Carvair

Out of these two which machine do people view as the most lacking in preservation in the U.K?

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By: AlanR - 1st April 2016 at 10:27

Talking of Bristol freighters, there are some fleeting glimpses of some at Southend, in this video.
At 1:38

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lDvCtvDkOQ

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By: ErrolC - 26th March 2015 at 09:06

If anyone is interested, photos of the Omaka Freighter getting an engine change this week!
http://rnzaf.proboards.com/post/224638/thread

In prep for the Classic Fighters Show at Easter, reason for the change:
http://rnzaf.proboards.com/post/223998/thread

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By: Consul - 14th March 2015 at 13:05

Thanks Errol, very helpful.

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By: ErrolC - 14th March 2015 at 01:48

Thanks markb, I think you are right. It looks like it’s been relocated behind some buildings. Found a 2014 image on the web which seem to show it in that new position.
http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/000970376.html

Tim

Yes, saw it today in that position.
Also flight ops by Spit Tr.9, Blunty, Yak-3, Harvards and the normal civil stuff 🙂 Not a bad local airfield.

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By: Gerard - 12th March 2015 at 11:21

Rotterdam Airport

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By: Jur - 12th March 2015 at 10:42

Carvair

…and 2 Carvair pictures, also taken at Rotterdam Airport in 1964/65

G-ASDC
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb167/Jur_photo/Carvair1_web_zpsl6prlqvb.jpg~original

G-ANYB
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb167/Jur_photo/Carvair2_0001_web_zpswrbu2z8m.jpg~original

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By: Jur - 12th March 2015 at 10:02

Bristol 170 Mk.32 G-AMSA

One of my very first aircraft photographs ever, taken 13th July 1964 at Zestienhoven Rotterdam Airport.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb167/Jur_photo/Bristol17032_web_zpss7uxjrm8.jpg~original

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By: ericmunk - 12th March 2015 at 09:30

The Enstone example no longer exists in any meaningful sense.

This photo of remnants was 10 years ago.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/duke_of_milan/5848013833/in/photostream/

Five years ago there was the entire wing as seen in the pics behind the hangar. An engine (and both destroyed props) were in a half open hangar. Stabilizers, other engine, vertical tail, aft fuselage, nose doors, various parts were in a closed hangar, as was the undercarriage. The owner said the entire nose and cockpit were at his home, sitting under tarps outside. There was quite a lot there, almost an entire aircraft, but in quite a state. I understand most of it went to Canada recently for a project there, but I could be mistaken.

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By: markb - 11th March 2015 at 20:34

As I remember it, a lack of propellers was the only reason it was grounded

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By: garryrussell - 11th March 2015 at 19:23

The last one to fly in Canada was still airworthy when put into a museum. That would be the only one capable of flight.

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By: David Burke - 11th March 2015 at 19:16

Richard Branson’s ears must be burning every time the funding of historic aircraft is mentioned ! Regards the Enstone Freighter -the cockpit is in the garden of one of the BA engineers involved with her -the rest is at Enstone but well past it apart from spares.

Realistically New Zealand is the best chance for one -it just takes money!

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By: Propstrike - 11th March 2015 at 18:54

The Enstone example no longer exists in any meaningful sense.

This photo of remnants was 10 years ago.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/duke_of_milan/5848013833/in/photostream/

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By: heli1 - 11th March 2015 at 18:20

Nothing is impossible.Perhaps Richard Branson would fund bringing one of the Freighters home from NZ or Canada…..and what happened to the remains of the Freighter at Enstone? I have heard large chunks of it exist and that at least would be better than nothing. I have a nostalgic view,having sat in newly built Freighters at the Western Airways assembly plant during pre flight engine runs when a kid. Arghh…them was the days!

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By: Newforest - 11th March 2015 at 18:06

Thanks for resurrecting this thread! Missed it the first time around…………..

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By: Consul - 11th March 2015 at 17:51

Thanks markb, I think you are right. It looks like it’s been relocated behind some buildings. Found a 2014 image on the web which seem to show it in that new position.
http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/000970376.html

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By: Supermarine305 - 11th March 2015 at 16:44

Do you know if the Google aerial pictures were updated since 2011?

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By: markb - 11th March 2015 at 14:34

I think it was just moved to a different part of the Ardmore site. Probably still there – it’s visible on Google Earth.

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By: Consul - 11th March 2015 at 10:53

DanS333, no that is not the one but thanks for trying to help. That Bristol Freighter at Woodlyn Park in use as a hotel is a different aircraft, namely NZ5903.

The aircraft I am trying to track down is ex NZ5911 / ZK-EPG. It was stored for many years at Ardmore assembled apart from its fin. It was put up for sale and moved a couple of years ago, since when I can find no reports of its new location. Can anyone help me locate it?

Here is a link to a report about its move from Ardmore in 2011, but to where?

http://nzcivair.blogspot.co.uk/2011/06/bristol-on-move.html

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By: ericmunk - 11th March 2015 at 08:10

Only two left in the world; both potential flyers.

Plus the one still sitting at the site of its demise at Venetie, Alaska. Be a lot of work though to get that presentable.

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By: garryrussell - 11th March 2015 at 07:35

I doubt if that’s the same aircraft as the post showing it at an airport is 2012 and the article 2011. The hotel has been there for quite sometime now.

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