February 17, 2011 at 10:09 pm
Hello,
Can anyone tell me if the ‘P’ in the circular ring that denoted a prototype airframe was at any time painted in white for both characters?
Only reason I ask is that for the type I’m interested in (the Auster A2/45) the only reference material available is in B&W images. I would think myself that its yellow for both, but need clarification.
Best wishes,
Martin
By: DaveF68 - 18th February 2011 at 12:52
I stand to be corrected, but I was under the impression that the ringed ‘P’ wasn’t specifically a prototype marking, but indicated that pilots notes were not available for that airframe?
By: T6flyer - 18th February 2011 at 09:56
A nice looking machine compared with the AOP9 but the 9 was a good aircraft for its role and I have no doubt that the 2/45 would have been also. Unfortunately as it never went into service we shall never know.
Think that a little bit more development was needed for the 2/45 as it seemed through trials to be unsuitable for use:
Trials quickly showed that Auster’s contender for the A2/45 specifications had some very pecuilar habits. It was a tandem seater in which the rear observer faced aft. The overall silhouette was a distinct breakaway from the traditional Auster and owed a lot, to the wartime Fi.156 Storch.
Apart from a 300 yard take-off, the flap handling was most odd. Outsized flaps were wound down by a handwheel at the pilot’s left hand. These flaps, when down, produced a very high drag coupled with a strong downwash on the tailplane.
These combined affects brought the aircraft’s nose up sharply as flap was applied and during the subsequent approach to land, the stick had to be held fully forward against the instrument panel. A three point landing was made by releasing the forward pressure on the stick. The climax of the trials came when, with a rear observer providing maximum aft C of G, the luckless pilot found that a flapped landing was impossible and in the attempt neatly removed the starboard undercarriage leg.
During subsequent investigation it was disclosed that Boscombe Down had forgotten to tell anyone that they considered the aircraft unsafe in this configuration. None of the A2/45 series were accepted.
Excerpt from article first published in the ‘Journal of Army Aviation’ 1966.
And as you quite rightly said the AOP9 was a superb aircraft for the role until the helicopter took over.
Best wishes,
Martin
By: mike currill - 18th February 2011 at 09:04
A nice looking machine compared with the AOP9 but the 9 was a good aircraft for its role and I have no doubt that the 2/45 would have been also. Unfortunately as it never went into service we shall never know.
By: T6flyer - 18th February 2011 at 08:40
Thanks for the reply, very much appreciated. I somehow thought that all prototype markings were in yellow, just thought it was best to ask!!
For more photographs of the A2/45 have a look at the Auster Heritage Group Gallery at: http://austerhg.org/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=5755
If you go back to the main page and then select Picture Gallery there are literally thousands of other Auster photos. Very interesting indeed….that is if you like Austers! 🙂
Again, thanks for replying,
Best wishes,
Martin
By: Fatcivvy - 18th February 2011 at 00:52
The only picture that I can find of the Auster A.2/45 shows it with a white serial number (VL522) and the prototype marking is definitely yellow as it is a darker shade than the serial number.
Cheers,
FC