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For me it has to be The British Dental Plan

😀 😀 😀 That good Huh!!! Lol 😀 Anna

Perhaps it’s cold dull grey weather that attracts them????????

Why do people of other ethnic origins, want to become British Citizens ?? 😉 Anna 😉

For me it has to be The British Dental Plan

Is it because the UK has the biggest airport in Europe? :confused: 🙂

You see its not IDs that I have trouble with, rather the reasons that the government give as a reason for introduction.

They said (amongst other things) that the rise in ‘home grown’ terrorism could be countered by the use of ID cards and this makes me suspicious. We dealt with a ‘home grown’ terrorist threat for over 30 years in the form of the IRA (those with British passports made full use of them and free travel between the two islands plus many cells on the mainland) and ID cards were not introduced then. So why now all of a sudden?

Like I said. I am not suspicious of ID cards but I am suspicious of the governments real intentions. Don’t forget that although Belgian ID cards are not tracking systems, not too far into the future ID cards could be made to do just that, we have the technology, to coin a phrase and I wouldn’t put it past the British government to go further down the ‘Big Brother’ road than European ID cards do now.

Also how many people are already here illegally? ID cards will only keep an eye on those who are here legitimately or if you want to be cynical, those who are already controlled. How will we issue ID cards to people we don’t even know exist? I do accept however the proof of identity issue with regards to various services.

It all sounds like a conspiracy theory I know but if they want to keep a close eye on us we should reciprocate. You can’t just let them have exactly what they want, when they want it or how they want it. They have to be checked and balanced.

Phil 🙂

You would probably be able to get ID cards as regular as bread, the same as you could fake passports if you knew the right people, so this arguement does not hold water.

You’d be surprised… We don’t have such problems over here. Of course, it is not just a simple piece of paper / plastic. In the Belgian case (a brand new model just got introduced), it is a credit card format, with a chip, a picture, signature, and all kinds of visual anti reproduction features. Rather close to a banknote in fact… You need it to open bank accounts, official paperwork, … And believe me, that kind of administrations won’t get fooled.

An ID, to the contrary of what many apparently believe in the UK, is not a tracking device to follow you like “Big Brother”, but rather what proves your identity when you require a service, and makes sure nobody else gets that service instead of you.

Go on ya ******s. Bite.

Okay then. Don’t. See if I care 😀 .

Phil 🙂

It’s a combination of factors. Mainly Britain is more prosperous & has more opportunities for work. When one considers that eastern Europeans can earn as much as 5-6 times the wage over here, it’s not that surprising.
Also, the shambolic immigration & asylum system don’t help. Why wouldn’t people want to come to a country where they don’t always have to work, can live on benefits & get things like rent & homes paid for them by the taxpayers?

Sauron- It’s Briton with 1 “t”. Bretons are something else. The people of Brittany, northern France, desceded from ancient Britons who settled in France & have a language based on Welsh & mostly Cornish.

Could it be our inalienable right to free speech?

Not as far as the Commodore hotel is concerned Kev………..B*******

They’re too late, the “Mighty British Empire ” sailed off with the Ark

Too bad. I really love the Battleships of the Royal Navy.

Thanks for the input.

Regards

Phil 🙂

Phil

Briton it is. Or Brittons perhaps. Or Bretons?

Regards

Sauron

I think its not just the UK but I’m no expert. I think people come to places like Britain because places like Britain are reasonably safe, stable and prosperous. In the main people just want what everybody wants a peice of that safety, stability and prosperity. A few deserve contempt but so do many native Britons (yes Sauron its Britons, not Britains at least try to get it right.)

And just to balance things out I am still British and I still owe my loyalty to the Union Flag 😉 . Go on ya ******s. Bite.

Phil 🙂

Because they want to be part of the mighty British Empire 😉

They’re too late, the “Mighty British Empire ” sailed off with the Ark

Andto answer the question why so mant people try to reach Britain: because you have no ID card. Anyone who enters the country can stay, as you nobody can prove your origins are not British anyway. It is that simple…

You would probably be able to get ID cards as regular as bread, the same as you could fake passports if you knew the right people, so this arguement does not hold water.
I am not British any more and hold no regard for the union flag, I am English, and the St. George Cross is my national flag, all for reasons I won’t go into as it will open a can of worms 🙂

Andto answer the question why so mant people try to reach Britain: because you have no ID card. Anyone who enters the country can stay, as you nobody can prove your origins are not British anyway. It is that simple…

I believe a birth certificate or lack of one can prove your origins, or lack of them?

Andto answer the question why so mant people try to reach Britain: because you have no ID card. Anyone who enters the country can stay, as you nobody can prove your origins are not British anyway. It is that simple…

Oh, Sauron.

Look at your history and you will see that Canadians themselves were self deprecating in their humour and contributed to the anthem.

No-one can denigrate the efforts made by Canadians in both wars. I believe their numbers for volunteering and casualties were the highest of all the Dominions.

Having spoken to and interviewed/corresponded, with a number of Canadian ex-servicemen I can assure you I hold them in the highest regard.

Regards,

kev35

Scots and Welsh do happen to be British!

Kev

Perhaps you could enlighten me (us) about your obvious distaste for the Canadians who were injured fighting (horribly burned) to help defend Britain. Perhaps their injuries were less painful (less horribly burned). Less worthy? Were there more of them than the other nationalities that a wing had to be built to accomodate them?

Actually Kev, when one considers the degree of arrogance displayed and the sense of unwarranted entitlment that Britains have always expected wherever they have trod in this world, it is a wonder that no many non-Britains have stepped up to defend the “Empire”. Just look at the role call during WW1 and WW11: Irish, Scots, Welch, Americans, Poles, Canadians, Australians, Indians, Pakistani, New Zealanders, Arabs, South Africans, and others. I have never talked to a Canadian who served during WW11 who felt he had to justify his service record by comparing it to that of a “Britain” or anyone else.

As to Sir McIndoe, perhaps he simply regarded Canadians as Britains and was set straight on occasion.

Regards

Sauron