Budding Aviation Writer

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I think this thread has completed its useful service life now.

Perhaps the OP will return at some point in the future when he has something new – perhaps even something original – to show us.

Until then……

Thanks

GA

[QUOTE=’568 crew;1541642]……. Alright just to settle (or start) something, the reason i wrote the story was because i have only ever seen two films and four books to do with the 8th AF, and i feel that the ‘Little Friends’ seem to be a neglected subject.

I only have Memphis Belle and the book ‘An Ace of the Eighth’ as a reference.
(and the Interweb)

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And therein lies your problem.

The fact that you have only seen two films and four books on the 8th AF reveals just how little respect you are paying to your writing in the first place and to the men of the 8th Air Force as well. There are many, many thousands of pages written about the 8th, both fiction and non-fiction, and a google search using the term ‘8th Air Force’ gave approximately 1,450,000 hits in just 0.67 seconds. Have a read through a few of those hits and learn a little, just a little, of the history.

Regards,

kev35

Just look up “J K Rowling” and “Plagiarism”, and you’ll find that there’s a HEFTY court case going on at the moment (and one in the past) which is debating whether or not Rowling lifted ideas for her work from a hitherto unheard-of novel which is, surprise, surprise, about a boy wizard…. :rolleyes:

Just because Quentin Tarantino does it, does not mean it’s actually a good idea….

Mate, I’ve tried to encourage you here, but if you can’t even be bothered to find out what plagiarism is, and how wrong it is, I have to say your chances of ever getting published are precisely zero.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plagiarism

Can I make a suggestion? You clearly love your writing, and as an amateur writer myself I understand and respect that. I have a fiction project that I love to polish and get just how I want it, but I don’t really expect to ever see it in print. I also had one aviation title published in the dim and distant past, and from that experience I’m sorry to say that I think there are way too many problems in terms of style, grammar, punctuation, structure and even basic spelling with your work to ever get published. Sadly, passion for your subject (which you clearly have) is simply not enough without the basic tools to make it readable and acceptable to others. I think the danger here for you is that you are going to fall between two stools, whereby you won’t get published, but in the attempt you lose the stories you love and the pleasure of creating them. So, with the greatest respect, maybe you should set aside any idea of getting published professionally (BTW, don’t be tempted by “Vanity Publishers”) and go back to writing purely for your own pleasure.

Confused and Bemused II

Nice argument! Well…i am following advice posted up on this thread. I’d like to know why people seem to think why i’m not following it? And what is wrong with using some lines (ok some are know deleted on my home copy) from films. The reason the lines are in is because i like them! Alright just to settle (or start) something, the reason i wrote the story was because i have only ever seen two films and four books to do with the 8th AF, and i feel that the ‘Little Friends’ seem to be a neglected subject.

I only have Memphis Belle and the book ‘An Ace of the Eighth’ as a reference.
(and the Interweb)

Heck, i leave this thread for a bit… See ya in eight months!

Plagiarism…?

Indeed I did suggest that. I also suggest that anyone who’s seen Memphis Belle recently, or more than once, and then read the story in question will see what I mean straight away. There’s a difference between drawing inspiration from a source and blatantly lifting dialogue.

That said, I also think the guy’s got serious balls to put his work up for scrutiny and I hope he’s taken away, read and digested the advice everyone’s given him to make a proper job of getting the stories from his imagination to the page. Whether or not that’s the case, we’ll just have to wait and see.

Rob does have a point there Scott. There are a number of people, including myself, who have posted less than favourable comments regarding this ‘body of work.’ Some tried to help only to become exasperated by the OP’s unwillingness to listen to or take any of the advice he himself has asked for. I believe that one of the more recent posts here has suggested that the OP may be guilty of plagiarism too.

I’m not particularly computer literate, I’ve even been told on good authority that my writings verge on the illiterate, but if Ctrl & A means deletion, I suspect that there’s several of us who have contributed to this thread who wouldn’t disagree with that advice at all.

Regards,

kev35

Robbo, your post was the one that stuck out to me the most…quite possibly the same as Paul

now without trying to drag this out as an armchair argument and hijack the thread…ive made my comments to you..so im ending it there

Scott, there’s been plenty of advice in this thread that didn’t seem to have made a great deal of impact. That’s the reason why the responses became less positive. If you’re going to pick up on my post then perhaps in the interest of fairness you’ll address all similar posts rather than climbing on someone else’s bandwagon?

Correct. Not right now anyway, just wanted to ask that quick question. 🙂

at the end of the day robbo, the guys here looking for help and constructive criticism, to improve his work…your comment was un neccessary and quite frankly pointless

if u dont have anything to say that would help improve the topic in question..dont comment…simple

when i manage to find my Office disc i will read the other documents and comment

Scott

So you’ve confirmed that you have nothing to say about this particular thread. You’ve taken issue with one post that’s no more negative than several others so yes, it does look like a case of bruised ego.

Bruised ego? Eh?! That’s actually quite comical.

Constructive criticism? You mean like hitting ctrl + A? Yeah, highly constructive. :rolleyes:

Paul, on that basis you shouldn’t have any difficulty in either responding to all the other similarly negative comments in this thread or providing some constructive feedback to the thread’s originator.

If not, perhaps you were simply airing a bruised ego from a throwaway quip on the Northern Ireland thread?

Robbo… Yup, I have.

Yes, plenty of times, but if your mind is closed you’ll probably find fault whilst looking. Have you actually read the material under discussion or the feedback?

Remember to use Ctrl & A first.

Do you ever make a comment that isn’t intended in a nasty way? :confused:

Remember to use Ctrl & A first.

[QUOTE=’568 crew;1540523]Work is progressing well, i’ve deleted most of the stories…[/QUOTE]
Remember, the more you delete, the better your work gets.

Just attempted to read the Bodney story, think the scriptwriters from Memphis Belle might have something to say about the wholesale lifting of lines from their film…