Buffalo C-46 hard landing

I wonder if they are still in situ?

And when they were last calibrated 🙂

Topspeed

The C-46 is a design in its own right, bigger, heavier and rarer than the C-47 that starred in ‘ISLAND in the SKY’.

Richard

C-46 Curtiss Commando is an awesome looking transport.

I just saw the “ISLAND in the SKY” where John Wayne was starring.

They have to make a forced landing into the wilderness.

I have to try this C-46 in FSX.

Is that a modified post production type ?

More info on this from the Aviation Herald website “The Canadian TSB reported that the engine’s oil scavenge pump had failed.”

Accident: Buffalo C46 near Deline on Sep 25th 2015

They agree it is Beyond Economical Repair 🙁

John

I remember my wife and I being weighed before we took a flight in a Rapide from Shoreham. We thought that we’d sit together during the flight. In fact we sat well apart. If my memory serves me well, the airport had a set of good, old fashioned scales – large, red and with a circular dial. I wonder if they are still in situ?

US airlines work on the O/NO weight system – Obese/NotObese…

When were YOU last weighed before boarding a plane? What airlines do this as a matter of course? Name names of airlines please!

I get weighed every time I get on a chopper for work. Handy for calculating diet progress.

I think we’re drifting ever so slightly off-topic. However, to answer that point, unless I’ve missed something, it is always the airline’s responsibility to correctly predict the weight and balance of their aircraft. Not the airport. I don’t know the regulatory position, but the reality for a large airline is that you use an average value for each passenger. You might validate that average by weighing the passengers for one flight, at one airport, on one day, occasionally. It’s your scale, and you take it to where it’s going to be used. Actually, I’d be surprised if there wasn’t a useable scale somewhere at every airport, even if it’s in the freight barn. And don’t forget the baggage scale you put your hold baggage onto as you check it in. You could weigh everyone if you had to, but you wouldn’t because you’d look silly one way or another. The point is that you don’t have to, the average is good enough.

The scales project was a minor one for me, and a good few years ago. I’m on the ragged edges of what I remember, so I think I’ll call it a day at that.

I am.

One-time inernal IT Consultant for a large airline. Last time they bought new scales (the old ones were very old and they wanted something that would talk to a computer so there was no data input task) it was my project. From memory – it was more than 10 years ago, so don’t quote me – we bought three. One for Heathrow, one for somewhere else and a spare. But mostly, as I said, they’d spend their time in a cupboard.

Clearly I can’t comment on how other airlines do this, but the scales we bought were one of the industry standard items for the task. I can’t remember how many options we had, but there was definitely more than one potential supplier. One would expect that an operator with smaller aircraft would use the scales more frequently, and one whose fleet was 100% longhaul widebodies much less frequently. But they all still do it sometimes.

Thing is, most US airports do not have a scale for even small aircraft uses.

One would think FAA require all airports have a scale handy.

Last time I was weighed was on a Sudan Airways 707 going from Nairobi to Khartoum in the mid-70s. Good job too as we rotated just about on the numbers. Some of the cabin baggage was “interesting”. You don’t normally get hand luggage “clucking”!!

I try to look average most of the time!
:eagerness:

I am.

We must just look average!

The Islander was fun – like a very noisy flying minibus.

Adrian

Maybe Lazy8 is right?

I am.

One-time inernal IT Consultant for a large airline. Last time they bought new scales (the old ones were very old and they wanted something that would talk to a computer so there was no data input task) it was my project. From memory – it was more than 10 years ago, so don’t quote me – we bought three. One for Heathrow, one for somewhere else and a spare. But mostly, as I said, they’d spend their time in a cupboard.

Clearly I can’t comment on how other airlines do this, but the scales we bought were one of the industry standard items for the task. I can’t remember how many options we had, but there was definitely more than one potential supplier. One would expect that an operator with smaller aircraft would use the scales more frequently, and one whose fleet was 100% longhaul widebodies much less frequently. But they all still do it sometimes.

That’s a weight off my mind !

Intriguing, because when we took the Islander in Orkney, we weren’t. Maybe Lazy8 is right?

Adrian

Out of curiosity, I just phoned Skybus up to confirm and they do continue to weigh ALL Islander passengers and have done so for many years

The last time I flew to the Isles of Scilly on an N-B Islander I was weighed and placed in a given seat as a result. Skybus operates scheduled services with Islanders from Land’s End airfield to St. Mary’s.

Intriguing, because when we took the Islander in Orkney, we weren’t. Maybe Lazy8 is right?

Adrian

All airlines weigh their passengers. It’s just that in the modern world there is so much experience of how much passengers weigh (and with larger aircraft, so much contingency built in to the design) that it’s acceptable to take an average, so the scales are kept in a cupboard somewhere and only brought out on rare occasions to verify that the ‘average person’ still weighs roughly what he or she did last time you did it. Freight, of course, is all weighed all the time.

When were YOU last weighed before boarding a plane? What airlines do this as a matter of course? Name names of airlines please!

The last time I flew to the Isles of Scilly on an N-B Islander I was weighed and placed in a given seat as a result. Skybus operates scheduled services with Islanders from Land’s End airfield to St. Mary’s.

Their services using Twin Otters do not require passengers to be weighed.

Edit:
Just in case anyone wondered, I weighed 85kg

From watching one of the “Air Accident” programmes, where an imbalance of weight was one of the causes of an accident.
It was said that airlines take an average weight per passenger. Stating that the average has now been increased.

Probably more important on smaller aircraft, and/or when runway length is a major factor.

:confused: Are the pilots brain dead,why risk your life ,
“The TSB report also found that what happened that day — passengers and luggage allowed on board without being weighed — was common practice at Buffalo at the time.

When were YOU last weighed before boarding a plane? What airlines do this as a matter of course? Name names of airlines please!