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Burmese Spitfires (again)

Latest instalment in the saga from AP via the Guardian

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/10487140

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By: Bunsen Honeydew - 6th November 2012 at 13:17

That’s a case of a newspaper story over blowing things – surprise suprise!
Componants were in deed crated, but whole airfrmaes no, and the Mod/RN were well aware of the two ready to go examples they had in store anway.
WN411 went the usual post service route of A.S. Gannets, LTS and disposal at Abbotsinch, before scrap by Kitson Vickers. The cockpit obviously made into preservation (ish!).

Certainly can’t claim it as a crated aircraft found again.

I remember this one. The crated Gannet that went to BAR was found in a scrapyard in Godstone in Surrey. Not sure of the exact location but it was on a bus route. I’m pretty certain it was in the late 70s but I’m open to correction on that. There was a photo of it in one of the aviation magazines at the time. Don’t know if this was WN411, as I recall there were some issues with BAR and it all went quiet.

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By: TonyT - 6th November 2012 at 12:25

Maybe the problem is that the canopy cover is still in place? 🙂

Damn, another potential sale for Air Ministry lost then 😀

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By: cambsman64 - 6th November 2012 at 09:56

smearing the dirt away from the cockpit canopy by now, peering at an immaculate green painted cockpit interior.
I wonder what the problem is?

Maybe the problem is that the canopy cover is still in place? 🙂

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By: GrahamF - 5th November 2012 at 20:41

Being an ex sapper and used to digging ‘oles in the ground, with a map showing a ground survey with the supposed image of a crate, I would be smearing the dirt away from the cockpit canopy by now, peering at an immaculate green painted cockpit interior.
I wonder what the problem is?

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By: Steve T - 5th November 2012 at 20:14

Martin–

Wrong fighter; Walt’s P-47 fuselage was off by itself in the brambles next to the remains of a Seabat helo, under a sheet of corrugated metal…what was inside the mid-section of the YB-36 was a P-63 and also parts of an XP-82. (The latter is now being reconstituted to flying condition by Tom Reilly.)

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By: D1566 - 4th November 2012 at 23:21

Isn’t there a crated P47N in the Sopplata collection?

Is that the one that was ‘crated’ in a section of B-36 fuselage?

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By: pagen01 - 4th November 2012 at 12:19

That’s a case of a newspaper story over blowing things – surprise suprise!
Componants were in deed crated, but whole airfrmaes no, and the Mod/RN were well aware of the two ready to go examples they had in store anway.
WN411 went the usual post service route of A.S. Gannets, LTS and disposal at Abbotsinch, before scrap by Kitson Vickers. The cockpit obviously made into preservation (ish!).

Certainly can’t claim it as a crated aircraft found again.

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By: Wyvernfan - 3rd November 2012 at 21:24

Not sure it counts when your the primary user and it’s “found” on your own turf; (so to speak) it’s a bit like finding a pristine choccy down the back of the sofa, still in it’s original wrapping!

The question was “has a crated wartime aircraft ever been found above or below ground?” No mention of location!

I’ve never heard of that, they didn’t usually keep Gannets in crates.

http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/gannet/survivor.php?id=521

I can only go by whats written but it backs up what i heard at the time!

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By: pagen01 - 3rd November 2012 at 19:29

Not wartime but i seem to recall that whilst the navy were looking for useable Gannet AEW.3’s to theoretically give the fleet some sort of early warning protection during the Falklands war they came across a crated Gannet.

I’ve never heard of that, they didn’t usually keep Gannets in crates.
Two AEW.3s (& two T.5s) were kept in LTS and live at Culdrose from leaving service to just after the Falklands war, they both flew again in the mid ’80s, XL500 for Dowty, and XL482 for Hamilton Standard.

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By: knifeedgeturn - 3rd November 2012 at 19:07

Not wartime but i seem to recall that whilst the navy were looking for useable Gannet AEW.3’s to theoretically give the fleet some sort of early warning protection during the Falklands war they came across a crated Gannet. It was found to be an AS model (totally different aircraft) and subsequently ended up with the then British Air Reserve collection.

Rob

Not sure it counts when your the primary user and it’s “found” on your own turf; (so to speak) it’s a bit like finding a pristine choccy down the back of the sofa, still in it’s original wrapping!

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By: TonyT - 3rd November 2012 at 18:49

No. It said “May Contain Spitfires”.

Surely that should be it may contain Nuts….. Ahh but thinking about it, they’re on the outside..

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By: j_jza80 - 3rd November 2012 at 18:27

That is a question that I have been meaning to ask. Has there?

Isn’t there a crated P47N in the Sopplata collection?

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By: AlanR - 3rd November 2012 at 18:24

Just to add my tuppence worth.

The condition of any remains will obviously depend on what has being
going on on the ground above.
If crops have been grown, and fertiliser used, that would add to any corrosion.

That’s if what I find detecting on farm land is anything to go by. Copper and
bronze corrodes very quickly on agricultural land.

Whereas coins found on a playing field that was being re laid, were coming up
like new after being in the ground 100yrs or more, as no fertiliser had been used

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By: Wyvernfan - 2nd November 2012 at 20:52

Not wartime but i seem to recall that whilst the navy were looking for useable Gannet AEW.3’s to theoretically give the fleet some sort of early warning protection during the Falklands war they came across a crated Gannet. It was found to be an AS model (totally different aircraft) and subsequently ended up with the then British Air Reserve collection.

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By: jeepman - 2nd November 2012 at 20:04

come to think of it, has a crated wartime airframe ever been found – above or below ground.

So – that’s a “NO” then is it?

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By: Malcolm McKay - 1st November 2012 at 23:48

come to think of it, has a crated wartime airframe ever been found – above or below ground.

I know there have been rewards around for crated jeeps for many years – and nobody has claimed them yet.

There used to be a crated Universal Carrier at Jacksons at the Rocket Site in Misson near Doncaster but I don’t know what came of it.

That is a question that I have been meaning to ask. Has there?

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By: Arabella-Cox - 1st November 2012 at 17:27

No. It said “May Contain Spitfires”.

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By: TonyT - 1st November 2012 at 16:37

Probably had stop painted on it…

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By: Edgar Brooks - 1st November 2012 at 16:30

We are then expected to believe they just left it at that, without actually looking in!!

Maybe they didn’t want the rain to get in.

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By: g5m - 1st November 2012 at 14:18

This has certainly been an entertaining thread.

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