June 10, 2004 at 3:23 pm
Perhaps not historic avaition,(although the Herc is older than some of the aircraft that we talk about on here) but yesterday I saw Transall’s and Hercs in unison over west Oxfordshire. I could see at least a 3 ship away in the distance but could not make out without bins whether they were all C160’s or C130’s or combinatoins of both. I had seen one of each together earlier in the day in the BZN traffic route.
Maybe an excercise or prep for RIAT ?
By: John Boyle - 15th June 2004 at 20:10
Many C-130As survive
Several C-130As are on display in the US…at Dyess, the Elint Museum at Ft. Meade, Maryland and a AC-130 prototype at the USAF Museum. Plus several more I’m sure
By: philo - 11th June 2004 at 09:13
So I wonder what the Transalls were up to, don’t often see them around here unless its RIAT time.
By: kodak - 11th June 2004 at 09:00
The Herc tankers have long been retired due to extra fatigue caused by their additional role. I believe they were scrapped
Out of the 5 converted, 3 were sold to Sri lanka! others scrapped at Cambridge
By: Chipmunk Carol - 11th June 2004 at 08:57
I was informed during a guided tour of the C130 maintenance unit that one problem they have is exfoliation of the longerons due to the use of the fuselage wall as a toilet by the crew. Fascinating!
By: kodak - 11th June 2004 at 08:54
Is is true that Marshall’s are going to ‘deconvert’ ‘Snoopy’ from a W.2 back to a C.1 for the Austrian Air Force, as it has so few flying hours?
Whaaaaat!!?? noooooooo!!!! tell me this cant be true – not poor old snoopy. Surely there are extra standard Hercs on the market – equivalent Es and Hs that the Austrians could have???
By: kodak - 11th June 2004 at 08:52
More than a year ago I heard that the Hercules tankers that were converted by Marshall’s of Cambridge for the Falklands conflict were near the end of their flying days and would be ‘dismantled’ . I emailed the PR people at RAF Lynham, Duxford and Marshalls to suggest that a Hercules should be preserved and what better than one of the tankers. I never received any replies
mmitch.
The Herc tankers have long been retired due to extra fatigue caused by their additional role. I believe they were scrapped
By: crazymainer - 11th June 2004 at 00:00
Hi All,
Lets me clear somethings about the Air tankers all Fix Wing Fire Bombers that had United States Forest Department contracts have been ground, This includes all C-130A,B,C P-3A,B C-54 DC-7 P2V-5,7 S-2.
As for perserve 130A there is one at Pima another is at SAC Museum Also I think there is at least two or three others. The SAC Musuem one might be the only Snub nose one thought.
By: LN Strike Eagle - 10th June 2004 at 23:13
There aren’t any C-130s in the Queen’s Flypast. Someone on UKAR suggested the formation could have been a practise for the Lyneham Families day on 2nd July.
By: ALBERT ROSS - 10th June 2004 at 23:10
We did a lot of work on them at Marshalls, it would be wonderful to see one at Duxford. I guess it is just the space that is the problem.
Is is true that Marshall’s are going to ‘deconvert’ ‘Snoopy’ from a W.2 back to a C.1 for the Austrian Air Force, as it has so few flying hours?
By: ALBERT ROSS - 10th June 2004 at 23:08
Philo – yep saw the 3 Hercs too – i think there was a flypast practice for the Queens birthday yesterday (C17, Tristar, C130s, Jags, Tornados etc) at Waddington so perhaps they were en-route back to Lyneham via the Oxfordshire countryside!
The three Hercs (all C-130Ks I think) flew several times over Swindon inbound to Lyneham on Wednesday around 1700.
By: Neil P - 10th June 2004 at 22:52
Philo – yep saw the 3 Hercs too – i think there was a flypast practice for the Queens birthday yesterday (C17, Tristar, C130s, Jags, Tornados etc) at Waddington so perhaps they were en-route back to Lyneham via the Oxfordshire countryside!
By: Leo - 10th June 2004 at 21:53
grounded
After the crash in 2003 the similiar crash of a tanker in 1994 was reviewed and it is believed to be the same cause now. California has grounded ALL large tankers for review, the C-130a and PB4Y (one of which shed a wing last year) indefinately.
By: Kenneth - 10th June 2004 at 21:33
It would seem that C-130’s are still in too high demand for many to be allocated to museums. As far as I know the Danish Air Force’s three C-130H – which are more than 25 years old – have been traded back to Lockheed and will be leaving Denmark now that the C-130J’s have been delivered 🙁
By: 334_Pegasus - 10th June 2004 at 18:49
The C-130A Tankers are grounded after two wing failures and fatal crashes.
Talk is the grounding is permanent.Leo
I know one of the crashes where the wing broke off but C-130A’s were still flying last August and I think the crashes happened before that time. Correct me if I’m wrong though, I’m more into military C-130’s than ex military ones.
By: Will J - 10th June 2004 at 18:30
On Sunday I was walking along the top of the Malvern hills and there was a Herc circling around (quite a way away), it was followed by what loked like a smaller, similarly shaped twin engined thing. (showing the depth of my modern transport airraft knowledge here 😀 😀 )
Could theis have been one of these Transalls as well :confused:
(PS… I know, I should have been at Duxford…. I will be there for Legends 😎 )
By: Leo - 10th June 2004 at 18:02
Air Tankers
The C-130A Tankers are grounded after two wing failures and fatal crashes.
Talk is the grounding is permanent.
Leo
By: 334_Pegasus - 10th June 2004 at 17:40
Forgot, the DC-130A’s are also still flying.
By: 334_Pegasus - 10th June 2004 at 17:37
On this note, are there any C-130A’s preserved anywhere else around the world? I know we have one down here in Australia and that it’s in full flying condition.
The Mexican AF still has a few A models on strength. There are a few A-model airtankers flying in the US as well.
By: Ja Worsley - 10th June 2004 at 17:24
The C-130J is a big mistake
Sorry mate but I have to agree with you on that, we down here got 12 to replace the C-130E’s and they had so many problems to start with that the E’s were kept in service for a full 18months longer just to be on the safe side. It wasn’t untill just recently that we got the software updates instaled that they have now been full autherised for full mission delpoyments and flights.
On this note, are there any C-130A’s preserved anywhere else around the world? I know we have one down here in Australia and that it’s in full flying condition.
By: Chipmunk Carol - 10th June 2004 at 17:02
Philo
Why don’t you post this on the Modern Military forum and see what they have to say?