Café made of 2 SO Bretagnes, Ambérieux

Anyone else think it looks like a “baby” Connie?

Thanks avion. So the other one was 22. Question answered.

I don’t suppose that anyone knows which SO.30P this one is?

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Good to see that you have a surviving example! Thankyou for the link.

Based on the information to be found at http://forum.aviationsmilitaires.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=3258, it appears that the café comprised 19/F-BAYV/F-ZABI and 22/F-BAYZ/F-RAFV.

You are correct, Mothminor, in reminding me that the Musée de l’Air Bretagne was destroyed in the le Bourget fire. It was 18/F-BAYU/F-ZABI and was destroyed on 17 May 1990.

Looking closely at the initial photograph, it appears that the sills of the ground floor windows are at ground level and thus it may be that the floor is at a subterranean level – enabling it to be used for purposes other than serving beverages to dwarves!

Thanks airmanual. Good photos of the survivor here –

http://www.pyperpote.tonsite.biz/patrimoines/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=62:sncaso-so30p-qbretagneq-nd37-f-zabz-usine-airbus-saint-nazaire-gron-44-&catid=2:pots-de-fleur&Itemid=5

Also visible on Google Earth – co-ordinates 47°18’50.10″N 2°10’8.32″W

Bonjour a vous deux,

Well, how could I say it’s a fake photo if one of you say he actually saw those two SO 30 in 1970.

My comments/doubts were relating to the buildings between & below the planes : roughly to scale, the entrance and windows are maximum 5 feet high, hardly usable as a café! But if the café was actually the fuselages, that’s another story.

Hopefully, there is still one SO 30 Bretagne with us ( preserved in Saint-Nazaire)

Laurent

Thanks for highlighting this, never knew about this type of aircraft before. On first glance it looks like two Constellations fused together. Always liked the designs from the post war French Aviation industry, sad that no examples exist.

Merci, Monsieur Avion Ancien.
There is no doubt that I saw these avions (fairly anciens) in 1970!
Mothminor: I too read that the Bretagne at Le Bourget was destroyed in that awful fire.

Weight is lent to the deduction from mentions, on the internet, that the SO.30 with the Musée de l’Air is the last surviving specimen.

Wasn’t the Bretagne with the Musee de l’Air destroyed in the fire of 1990 or have they obtained another since?

I wouldn’t be quite so sure, Laurent. If you look at http://philatelie-aviation.blogspot.fr/2013/10/je-vous-invite-aurestaurant.html, you’ll find another postcard with interior views. I think that these might be very difficult to fake unless you have an exceedingly good aeromodeller to hand!

Laurence, I’m inclined to think that if the café was destroyed by fire, what remained of the two SO.30s quickly became the preserve of the ferrailleurs. Furthermore from the lack of any subsequent mention of the two airframes, I’d be inclined to deduce that they did not survive. Weight is lent to the deduction from mentions, on the internet, that the SO.30 with the Musée de l’Air is the last surviving specimen.

Are you saying it is a fake? It is not my photo but I DID SEE the Bretagnes joined as described at Ambérieu in 1970.

No, no, no, no. But well tried 😮

Nice photo montage but definitely a problem with the scale : it was either a café built for dwarfs or a special version of the SO.30 built for giants!!

Laurent