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Camel sold

Remember the original US-based Camel for sale on Ebay recently?

By the time I was alerted to it and got ‘on the case’, somebody had an option to purchase it.

I got the bad news from the vendor a couple of days back ( via a very nice EMail) that the prospective purchaser had indeed stumped up the dosh and it had been sold.

A pity…

It would have fitted in well at OW.

Anybody know where its going?

DR1 G-FOKK coming along very nicely and now looking at either an Antoinette or a DV11 as a next fixed wing ( ahaaaa!) project.

Any leads on an original Mercedes for the latter would be much appreciated, as indeed would any leads on a potentially airworthy restoration project.

On the former subject, does anybody know how complete the example in Poland is? I can feel a trip coming on.

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By: ozplane - 1st February 2006 at 16:03

Thanks David. I had at the back of my mind that the Redhill Q6 was ‘EYE but that expired at Cambridge even earlier so you are quite right. I’d still love to see it again in flying condition.

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By: The Blue Max - 1st February 2006 at 12:37

If you do a Google on The Q6 the pprune thread come up.

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By: David Burke - 1st February 2006 at 11:24

Ozplane – the one you saw at Redhill and the IoM machine are very likely the same machine! Certainly AFFD was an instructional airframe there loosing it’s wings at the same time. FlyPast April 1989 gives the feedback from the original FlyPast article.
New outer wings were built for her by Southern Sailplanes for the rebuild – I should imagine if it had the magic letters D.H before the Q6 it would have left the IoM
for rebuild years ago!

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By: ozplane - 1st February 2006 at 10:02

There was a thread on pprune about the Q6 under Aviation Nostalgia but it appears to have been cleared when they did their update. If I remember correctly a deal was nearly done but failed and the aircraft remains in the IOM. From the photographs taken by a chap in Air Traffic at Ronaldsway, the airframe looked close to completion but appearances can be deceptive. Hope this helps. I’d love to see one in the air. I did see the one at Redhill in the 50s at the start of my interest in aircraft but that was a non-flyer.

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By: The Blue Max - 31st January 2006 at 21:09

aarh, the memory is working!! yes charlie was very lucky, unfortunately the A/C was not so. The incident prompted the fitting of fire sleeve on all Gipsy Major Fuel Hose’s. Im sure i have a pic of her somewhere i will see what i can dig up.

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By: David Burke - 31st January 2006 at 19:31

For those with an interest in the Q6 – the FlyPast feature on her rebuild circa mid 1980’s is good reading and gives some insight into the trials and tribulations of her rebuild .

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By: David Burke - 31st January 2006 at 19:30

Blue Max – Your spot on ! The Dragon Rapide flew in the colours of the Guards i.e red and blue initially and the registration ‘G-ADDD’ was applied . She was later sold to Victor Gauntlett and received a refurbishment and Brooklands colours. I don’t recall seeing any pictures of her flying in that scheme – the Flypast article on her loss showed her as ‘G-ADDD’ in the hands of Colin Dodds hence my association with him.
She was in the hands of Shea-Simmons at the time of her loss and judging the circumstances he is incredibly fortunate to have survived her sad end.

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By: Consul - 31st January 2006 at 19:28

The Q6 is of interest. Give me the owners details please.

Another possibility is a Nieuport 28. Wouldn’t that be cool?! A howling banshee of a thing. If we can find an engine we could be on for it.

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By: The Blue Max - 31st January 2006 at 19:16

Depends on whether you are wanting an original engine or not? several N28’s flying in the USA with MP14 radials minus the gearbox in them.

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By: Hairyplane - 31st January 2006 at 18:51

More thoughts..

The Q6 is of interest. Give me the owners details please.

Another possibility is a Nieuport 28. Wouldn’t that be cool?! A howling banshee of a thing. If we can find an engine we could be on for it.

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By: Consul - 31st January 2006 at 18:09

Hairy, did you give any thought to Consul’s suggestion of finding out the status quo (no they did know more than 3 chords, unlike me) of the Q6. While we all love the Rapide they are quite well represented in the flying fleet whereas the Q6 is not represented. There is a tenuous link with Bedfordshire as they were built at Luton and you could take all your chums with you when your fleet goes on tour.

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Thanks for your support of my suggestion about the Q.6 – I was quite serious and I thought, looking at subsequent posts, that it might get lost amongst all the space devoted to the discord that surfaced between two posters!

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By: The Blue Max - 31st January 2006 at 16:42

Thanks David i’ll take a look at that.

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By: David Burke - 31st January 2006 at 15:52

Blue – It appears from trawling the net that G-ADDD was the Prince of Wales machine and flew in Guards colours . There is reference to it on a few Queens Flight websites.

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By: The Blue Max - 31st January 2006 at 15:47

Im sure DDD/JHO had just come out of some work at the time of the engine fire incident and had been repainted in “Brooklands ” colours. Or maybe the memory aint what it used to be!!! have to look through some old pics.

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By: ozplane - 31st January 2006 at 15:14

Hairy, did you give any thought to Consul’s suggestion of finding out the status quo (no they did know more than 3 chords, unlike me) of the Q6. While we all love the Rapide they are quite well represented in the flying fleet whereas the Q6 is not represented. There is a tenuous link with Bedfordshire as they were built at Luton and you could take all your chums with you when your fleet goes on tour.

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By: GASML - 31st January 2006 at 13:28

Camel rolled

Back to Sopwith Camels.

This cutting appeared in the NZ Waipara Times newspaper yesterday.

Although its sad to see the aeroplane damaged, the story creased me up!

It wasn’t some of you lot, handbags at dawn?? :diablo:

Wairarapa wind too much for World War I veteran

24.01.2006

PETER JACKSON’S priceless original World War I Sopwith Camel fighter went up and over after being caught by a gust of wind.

An “unfortunate gust” of wind flipped a plane on the runway at Hood Aerodrome on Saturday spurring a tiff between two women concerned for the pilot’s well being.

The WWI era Sopwith Camel fighter plane, of the kind made famous by Captain W.E. Johns in his Biggles novels, is part of the Omaka Collection, which is owned by moviemaker Peter Jackson’s group.

The historic aircraft was caught by a northwesterly gust, which threw the lightweight craft on its back. The pilot, American flying ace Gene De Marco, was unharmed in the crash but the biplane did suffer some damage.

Witnesses say the biplane wasn’t the only one to flip out on the airfield.

Police said when the plane rolled two women rushed out on to the airfield to see if he was all right.

Later one of the women made an allegation to police that the other woman had assaulted her but police “found no evidence to substantiate this allegation” and no charges were laid.

http://times-age.co.nz/storyprint.cfm?storyID=3669773

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By: David Burke - 31st January 2006 at 13:19

Kev – discussion is exactly that. When it changes to attacks on the character of a poster maybe that’s beyond the remit of the forum? As you clearly state a forum is for open debate but I would argue the very nature of the website should set some boundaries as to what is acceptable?

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By: David Burke - 31st January 2006 at 13:12

Blue Max – deleted accordingly – A good opportunity to relive some of the 1980’s FlyPast’s tonight.

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By: Yak 11 Fan - 31st January 2006 at 13:04

Which is fine when there is positive input as well as negative…

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By: kev35 - 31st January 2006 at 13:01

Cestrian.

From Dictionary.com…..

fo·rum ( P ) Pronunciation Key (fôrm, fr-)
n. pl. fo·rums, also fo·ra (fôr, fr)

The public square or marketplace of an ancient Roman city that was the assembly place for judicial activity and public business.
A public meeting place for open discussion.
A medium of open discussion or voicing of ideas, such as a newspaper or a radio or television program.
A public meeting or presentation involving a discussion usually among experts and often including audience participation.
A court of law; a tribunal.

Note the emphasis on open discussion?

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