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Can anybody identify this (aircraft) piston?

This came from a collection of Lancaster memorabilia but it definitely isn’t from a Merlin.

It’s approximately 140mm/5.5” bore, flat-topped with three rings (two compression, one oil-control).

Any ideas?

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By: T-21 - 27th December 2007 at 18:00

It looks German to me Ju88 possibly ??

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By: Graham Adlam - 27th December 2007 at 17:55

Yes, the valve number and arrangement are the dead-giveaway…two, inclined…

…as opposed to four, flat (well, nearly) for the DB601/DB605.

Looks like a Pratt & Whitney R-1830 Twin Wasp radial piston to me (DC-3 / B-24).

At least you haven’t lost your sense of humour over it…and hope it didn’t cost you too much.

I cant remember what i paid for it, i always work on buyer beware principal on purchases its rare i buy something if i dont know what it is, that way I don’t get caught out to often. This really was a blantant bit of miss information but without the paperwork to back it up i wont have paid much.

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By: Creaking Door - 24th December 2007 at 17:19

Excellent…I’m sure a lot of forum members, like me, would love to hear more, and see some photos.

Good luck, and I hope somebody here can help you with the parts you need.

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By: racer2_uk - 24th December 2007 at 15:58

Napier Lion

Hi Creaking Door, I am rebuilding a 1926 Lion Va to ground run, it is a very interesting engine.

I already ground run an Alvis Leonides from a Bristol Sycamore, although it now has a prop and runs as a fixed wing type engine.

If anybody has any Lion parts please get in touch.

Thanks.

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By: Creaking Door - 24th December 2007 at 14:12

Yes, the valve number and arrangement are the dead-giveaway…two, inclined…

…as opposed to four, flat (well, nearly) for the DB601/DB605.

Looks like a Pratt & Whitney R-1830 Twin Wasp radial piston to me (DC-3 / B-24).

Amazing I wonder how it picked up the History I was given LOL

At least you haven’t lost your sense of humour over it…and hope it didn’t cost you too much.

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By: stuart gowans - 24th December 2007 at 12:49

A 2 valve hemi, if aero, it’s more likely to be from a radial.

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By: Graham Adlam - 24th December 2007 at 12:07

Sorry, not a Bf109 piston…it’s American. 😮

Amazing I wonder how it picked up the History I was given LOL

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By: Creaking Door - 24th December 2007 at 11:14

Maybe its not so similar LOL. This Piston is believed to be from an ME 109. I Was told that this piston came from an ME 109 shot down by F/O Feric of 303 Sdr in September 1940.

Sorry, not a Bf109 piston…it’s American. 😮

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By: Graham Adlam - 24th December 2007 at 10:59

Thanks Andy, nice to have it finally confirmed!

I’ve got to ask why you are after Napier Lion parts; are you rebuilding one…to run…and in what?

Post a picture and I’ll have a guess. 😀

Maybe its not so similar LOL. This Piston is believed to be from an ME 109. I Was told that this piston came from an ME 109 shot down by F/O Feric of 303 Sdr in September 1940.

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By: Creaking Door - 24th December 2007 at 01:54

Hi Creaking door, you have a Napier Lion piston, or half of one!

Thanks Andy, nice to have it finally confirmed!

I’ve got to ask why you are after Napier Lion parts; are you rebuilding one…to run…and in what?

I have a very similar looking piston which i was told was from a ME109:confused:

Post a picture and I’ll have a guess. 😀

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By: Me-109E - 23rd December 2007 at 16:02

I have a very similar looking piston which i was told was from a ME109:confused:

Definitly not 109!!!

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By: Graham Adlam - 23rd December 2007 at 15:06

This came from a collection of Lancaster memorabilia but it definitely isn’t from a Merlin.

It’s approximately 140mm/5.5” bore, flat-topped with three rings (two compression, one oil-control).

Any ideas?

WA$.

I have a very similar looking piston which i was told was from a ME109:confused:

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By: stuart gowans - 23rd December 2007 at 12:53

I should have said it definitely isn’t from a Lancaster!

You are quite correct about the MkII Lancaster of course but a Hercules piston is bigger (5.75”) and looks like this…

…except it wouldn’t be green.

Thanks for trying.

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Unless it was running in Duckhams oil!

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By: racer2_uk - 23rd December 2007 at 10:00

Napier Lion piston

Hi Creaking door, you have a Napier Lion piston, or half of one !

The gudgeon pin oil hole is for the fully floating pin with end wear buttons.

I am looking for Lion parts including Hobson updraught carbs, coolant pipework, a test club and just about any other parts available.

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By: Creaking Door - 14th January 2007 at 21:16

A couple more pictures of this mystery piston.

Assuming the following I’m hoping it’s a Napier Lion piston.

It’s not a Lancaster piston but is probably British and has been cut-down into an ashtray by an RAF engine fitter in the traditional way.

It’s the correct bore and has the correct number of rings. It also has a very distinctive oil hole to lubricate the gudgeon pin (see photo with screwdriver).

Anybody know different?

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By: Creaking Door - 3rd January 2007 at 22:49

I should have said it definitely isn’t from a Lancaster!

You are quite correct about the MkII Lancaster of course but a Hercules piston is bigger (5.75”) and looks like this…

…except it wouldn’t be green.

Thanks for trying.

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By: Dakkg651 - 3rd January 2007 at 10:36

The MkII Lanc had Hercules.

Just a guess.

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By: Creaking Door - 3rd January 2007 at 00:56

Just this (via eBay).

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By: Peter - 3rd January 2007 at 00:41

piston id?

No idea sorry, what lancaster memorabilia did you get?

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