May 9, 2006 at 11:55 am
Now that the TFC P-47G is at Duxford, I was hoping that someone here, either poster or lurker who works for TFC or has access to the aircraft could try and look at the data-plate for the P-47G and see if the construction number (c/n) is listed and it is 21962?
Sorry I do not know where it is located.. The reason is that I hope it can clear up a long term mystery re Curtiss c/ns..
If this particular subject bores you to death… but you stop here….
I have only been speculating on the P-47G c/n’s over the last couple of years.
No official c/n’s are known as yet and the only known 2 surviving P-47G’s had to my knowledge not previously revealed their secret.
The March issue of Air Britain news quoted the c/n of the TFC P-47G as having 21962. This was the first published record I had seen quoting this number.. However when I traced the source of this information back with Air Britain, no one could provide me with where the information came from… It has been lost in the mists of time.. G-INFO does NOT quote the C/N.
Anyway, here is an abridged version of the research…
Curtiss, C/N’s were essentially consecutive in number and a lot of work has been undertaken by researchers worldwide to establish what they all were… This is mostly a result of looking at data plates of surviving P-40s and C-46’s and archive documentation. However, the art is fitting in the P-40’s with the C-46s and all the other aircraft Curtiss built (such as prototypes and cancelled orders) into the c/n list…
However, and this is the “pure speculation” bit at the moment….. There is currently a ‘GAP’ that exists of 354 c/ns. This is interesting as there were 354 P-47G aircraft built! The gap is between some Curtiss P-40K-15-CU and C-46D-20-CU as shown below:
Provisional: 354 P-47G Thunderbolts??
Start End US Serial US Serial Note
c/n c/n Start End
21649 21813 42-10265 42-10429 P-40K-15-CU (Total 165)
21814 21833 42-24920 42-24939 Provisional P-47G-CU (Total 20)
21834 21873 42-24940 42-24979 Provisional P-47G-1-CU (Total 40)
21874 21933 42-24980 42-25039 Provisional P-47G-5-CU (Total 60)
21934 22013 42-25040 42-25119 Provisional P-47G-10-CU (Total 80)
22014 22167 42-25120 42-25273 Provisional P-47G-15-CU (Total 154)
22168 22367 44-78345 44-78544 C-46D-20-CU (Total 200)
So If you work out the maths, then you can make 42-25068 possibly (c/n 21962) – which is the c/n in the Air Britain news and it is the proof of this that I am after…..
As the aircraft has now turned up at TFC (after a long period of being out of sight in a shipping container), perhaps the data-plate can be traced (if it still exists) and the c/n confirmed?
As an aside there is no known hook yet into the P-40F (Merlin engined variant) c/ns and these are the biggest gap in our collective knowledge so any help here would be a bonus…
If you do not want to post the information, here can you PM me??
Regards and thanks in anticipation
Paul
By: paulmcmillan - 12th June 2006 at 09:15
PR..
Thanks for looking this up for me…. Looks like the C/N’s do fit the known gap but are not consecutive……. As first thought!
Paul
By: Beaufighter VI - 11th June 2006 at 21:11
Hi Paul
Serial of Little Demon is Curtis 21953
PR
By: TEXANTOMCAT - 10th May 2006 at 17:19
Regarding the C/Nos of the TFC P-47, even in Australia, I can hear the whirr of the data-plate engraving machines of TFCs lovely little pixie-like helpers creating the numbers you want, even now… 😉
LOL 😉
By: paulmcmillan - 10th May 2006 at 14:13
No mention in the paperwork, will have to wait for physical inspection.
PR
PR
Thanks
Paul
By: JDK - 10th May 2006 at 13:31
If this particular subject bores you to death…
As an aside there is no known hook yet into the P-40F (Merlin engined variant) c/ns and these are the biggest gap in our collective knowledge so any help here would be a bonus…
I think I died.
However my ghost suggest you might contact Judy Pay’s Old Aeroplane Co at Tyabb, Vic, Aus who are restoring a P-40F to fly, and they ought to be able to nail one P-40F c/No for you; the Kiwi Air Force Museum are converting another P-40F to a more vanilla mark, and it might be worth asking them what they started with.
Regarding the C/Nos of the TFC P-47, even in Australia, I can hear the whirr of the data-plate engraving machines of TFCs lovely little pixie-like helpers creating the numbers you want, even now… 😉
By: Beaufighter VI - 10th May 2006 at 12:58
No mention in the paperwork, will have to wait for physical inspection.
PR
By: Beaufighter VI - 9th May 2006 at 19:03
Will look at the paperwork tomorrow. Physical will have to wait until we pull it out of the container.
Can anybody shed any light on the field modification for the second seat?
PR