May 1, 2006 at 11:29 pm
Any ideas.. Lanc, stirling, hali?….other?? no visible numbers
By: Peter - 3rd July 2006 at 18:16
ZRX61.
Had a successful clean up of the panel the other day. Gave it a coat of rust converter and once that was dry, gave it an all over very thin matt black mist coat to protect the aluminum.
By: ZRX61 - 29th June 2006 at 17:46
i believe that the part no 28884/29 is from a “balmoral tanks” water tank intended for loft use circa 1920 to 1935.
I hear there’s a static example going to be at Legends….
By: soft target - 29th June 2006 at 16:39
you know what they say peter one mans junk is onother mans treasure!
good luck with the restoration i think you’ll need it!!
By: Peter - 29th June 2006 at 15:35
soft target you couldnt be more wrong but thanks for the laugh
By: ZRX61 - 29th June 2006 at 02:43
thanks ZRX61 it sounds tempting but unsure as to what shape shell be in after something like that
I did an entire (static) Spitfire with it & it came out great. If you’re worried just have a garden hose running next to you & if it starts to look like it’s getting to a bit too enthusiastic just hit it with the water & wash the stuff off.
By: soft target - 29th June 2006 at 01:46
i believe that the part no 28884/29 is from a “balmoral tanks” water tank intended for loft use circa 1920 to 1935. so don’t blast it with baking powder at all. my advice would be as follows.
1) put in boot of car
2) drive to local scrap merchant
3) remove from boot of car
4) lob over fence of scrap merchant.
5) drive home happy in the knowledge that you don’t have to try and sort out a knackered old bit of water tank.
6) put money set aside for restoring junk towards flying lessons.
my advice is always free.
By: Peter - 29th June 2006 at 01:31
Had a go with oven cleaner on a small test area it too off the brown junk and also removed some of the powder on the test piece. not a fan of it though and will hold off doing any further.
By: Peter - 28th June 2006 at 23:49
thanks ZRX61 it sounds tempting but unsure as to what shape shell be in after something like that
By: ZRX61 - 28th June 2006 at 18:45
No intentions of repainting it tried out that rust eater stuff that was mentioned, but it didnt do a whole lot.. wish there was a way of controlling and stabilising the powdery deposits.
Phosphoric acid will take care of the white powdery stuff. Castrol SuperClean degreaser contains it & will brigthen aluminium a fair bit. The down side is that it will remove paint so be carefuol where you put the stuff if you want to prerserve what paint is left.
In the US we have this kinda stuff which is the dogs danglies:
http://www.fppf.com/prdTrailerB01.html
http://www.ezoil.com/ezbrite.html
some info on this msg board:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=757858
(Altho ‘Polisher” is a bit overly opinionated about it’s use.. I don’t think he realises that you are supposed to dilute it…)
ah HA! this is the place ya want:
http://www.ankosales.com/aluminum-brightener.html
By: Peter - 28th June 2006 at 13:59
No intentions of repainting it tried out that rust eater stuff that was mentioned, but it didnt do a whole lot.. wish there was a way of controlling and stabilising the powdery deposits. Was also thinking of cleaning it as best I can and clear coating it
By: ZRX61 - 27th June 2006 at 19:57
would glass beads take off the coating i wonder?
please keep on topic though
Yup it would, but if you’re going to slap on a coat of Yellow Death & refinish the part that wouldn’t really matter all that much 🙂
By: Peter - 26th June 2006 at 21:58
Thanks Rocketeer. Yes I remember you mentioning it but it sounded like the jury was still deliberating over stirling, wellington. Played around a bit with it this afternoon replacing missing rivets etc and reinforcing the bad sections.
By: Rocketeer - 26th June 2006 at 18:53
Update 2
Thanks to Darren Cowd at Hendon, he has positivly identified this panel as wellington bomber wing flap
Funny that! I seem to remember stating (withknowledge! 🙂 ) that it was Welly yonks ago…..
a number starting 285 normally gives the game away!
I have a Warwick window (identical to the Wellington) which has a similar part number….I shall check tonight but I think it is 286….
By: Peter - 26th June 2006 at 15:33
Update 2
Thanks to Darren Cowd at Hendon, he has positivly identified this panel as wellington bomber wing flap
By: Peter - 24th May 2006 at 02:46
would glass beads take off the coating i wonder?
please keep on topic though
By: ZRX61 - 24th May 2006 at 01:24
Don’t ever use glass beads on Al either.
Any particular reason? I only ask because I can think of at least 30 aircraft owners who will be more than a tad miffed if their aircraft are grounded for having parts that have been bead blasted on them… including 9 P51’s… Princess Elizabeth being one of them.
By: Peter - 22nd May 2006 at 19:49
Thanks guys. might try and see if I can read anything on the makers stamp if it is been hit hard enough
Update..!
I can read what looks like a W or M on the makers stamp and there is something below this leter but it is to lightly stamped to make out
Also on the metal hinge casting, there is a 9B??
By: Fouga23 - 22nd May 2006 at 17:46
instead of a wire brush, why not use paint stripper, let it work a few minutes and them pressure wash? I did that on some parts in the past. works great and doesn’t damage the metal.
By: Alan Clark - 22nd May 2006 at 17:14
I see there is an inpectors stamp on that plate if it was struck hard enough you should be able to make out which company made it. If its Vickers it should be VA, VAC, VABL, VACB if you clean the plates with a wire brush more number might become apparent. I’ll go and check the wellington bits I have with see if any start 288.
By: Peter - 22nd May 2006 at 17:05
“bump”
Stirling group says it is similiarto the bombdoors onstirlings but the number is not stirling…
back to square one!