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Can aviation still attract young enthusiasts?

Like most of us here (I suspect) aviation is in my blood, but compared to the past what is there to attract young kids now? Most modern airliners look superficially the same (long tube with an engine under each wing) with no distinctive shapes like Concorde or Comet. There are no more “big” records to be broken; the last was probably the Rutan Voyager flying non-stop around the world in 1986. There are no plans to return to the moon, let alone other planets, and NASA doesn’t even have the capacity to put a man into space on its own now. The RAF has just two real combat types; long gone are the Phantoms, Buccaneers, Jaguars, Harriers, Lightnings, Canberras, Hunters, Vulcans, etc I grew up with. Bombers no longer need to be ever-bigger and fighters no longer need to be ever-faster. New types seem to take an eternity from drawing board to service compared to the old days when every SBAC show had a string of exciting new types making their debut; now you are lucky to see a new variant, and the flying display is a shadow of what it was. Even the end of the cold war has meant we can no longer scare ourselves with speculation about what the “Reds” might be up to (remember all the speculation about “Fearless” which didn’t actually exist?) and lap up those fuzzy and clandestinely obtained photos of new types with bizarre ASCC reporting names; now MiG & Sukhoi are only too happy to tell us what they are doing. So (putting down the rose-tinted glasses) what is there to attract kids today, compared to past times?

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By: Lincoln 7 - 11th May 2013 at 10:14

Alan, Unfortunately, what you say is very true, I think kids should get into airshows free of charge, that may help them to gain an interest, as you say not everyone can afford to take the whole family out for the day, not in this day and age.
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By: AlanR - 10th May 2013 at 21:57

Children are inspired by seeing and hearing real aircraft.

On the military side: If their parents can’t afford to take them to any of the mega expensive airshows, or be lucky
enough to live close to one of the very few active air bases, they are unlikely to see any military aircraft flying at all.
As good as museums are, there is a generation who will never have witnessed a Lightning take off, or a Vulcan doing
a touch and go.

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By: WP840 - 10th May 2013 at 21:29

My little boy (3 in a few weeks) has already been on visits to many stately homes and other historic sites and as his interest in technology grows we’ll start taking him to museums and exhibitions such as Beaulieu, AAC museum Middle Wallop, RAFM Hendon and Bovington tank museum although the last 3 in this list will probably be without Mrs 840!

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By: Lincoln 7 - 10th May 2013 at 18:08

I agree with the idea that we had better childhoods because we didn’t have computer games etc . We had to go out and use our imaginations BUT had computers etc have been around in our time would we still think the same?.

Gary, I do agree somewhat with what you say, I served as an Apprentice in Engineering,but never lay a hand on a computer until I was just over 60yrs old, and I taught myself, and can get most problems sorted myself. I have worked on most of the cars I have owned, but agree that todays modern cars are impossible to work with unless you have a fault finder diagnostic machine, and the code reader. Having said that, My son, when he visited a few months ago, needed new brake pads for his car, front and rear, and was going to take his car to a garage. We went to a car spares shop, purchased the pads, and I put them in for him. A job, I am sure most of us, ((Our age) could do easily. There seems to be no interest in being “Hands on” these days with the younger generation.I am sure that we all learn more after we leave school, that what we do when we were at school.

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By: trumper - 10th May 2013 at 16:23

I agree Chas, however, he does his homework first on school days and is top of his class :eagerness: but I do think he spends too much time on his “Toys”, We didn’t have those in our younger days, and had to make up our own entertainment. Most kids these days couldn’t change the spark plug in a Lawnmower.
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I agree with the idea that we had better childhoods because we didn’t have computer games etc . We had to go out and use our imaginations BUT had computers etc have been around in our time would we still think the same?.
These are really the first generation of school leavers to have had reasonably good software and computers to run it throughout their childhoods.They know no different and their lives [working or otherwise] will be mostly computer based.
Even mechanics have to be computer literate to get the black boxes on cars to talk to them,the days of just wielding a spanner are going.

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By: TwinOtter23 - 10th May 2013 at 15:27

Some regions are even active on the engineering front with events such as this one – no not plugging NAM this time.

However I may be delivering a Principles of Flight session as part of the weekend’s activities!! :eagerness:

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By: charliehunt - 10th May 2013 at 14:12

I agree Chas, however, he does his homework first on school days and is top of his class :eagerness: but I do think he spends too much time on his “Toys”, We didn’t have those in our younger days, and had to make up our own entertainment. Most kids these days couldn’t change the spark plug in a Lawnmower.
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Absolutely right, Linc, and I hadn’t meant to be personally critical – my remark was intended to be general. But you are right, it is getting the balance right and it will be different for every child, of course. It’s probably good enough if parents are aware – sadly so many are not and don’t care. A propos your last remark do you try to instill in him some of those basic engineering skills or is it a lost cause….??:)

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By: Lincoln 7 - 10th May 2013 at 13:57

Inspire them through school visits!

You have an uncanny way Howard of plugging N.A.M. Keep it up, will soon be up for my free cuppa.:)
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By: Lincoln 7 - 10th May 2013 at 13:54

Lack of parental control over the amount of game playing is a disaster, that cannot be easily cured. My grandson’s iTouch and Play Station use is limited, allowing him to enjoy and benefit from everything else he does.

I agree Chas, however, he does his homework first on school days and is top of his class :eagerness: but I do think he spends too much time on his “Toys”, We didn’t have those in our younger days, and had to make up our own entertainment. Most kids these days couldn’t change the spark plug in a Lawnmower.
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By: TwinOtter23 - 10th May 2013 at 12:11

Inspire them through school visits!

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By: charliehunt - 10th May 2013 at 08:32

Lack of parental control over the amount of game playing is a disaster, that cannot be easily cured. My grandson’s iTouch and Play Station use is limited, allowing him to enjoy and benefit from everything else he does.

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By: F-18Growler - 9th May 2013 at 22:45

I see your grandsons problem. I’m sure he should be ashamed of himself for not stopping his video games. Video games shouldn’t been maken in the 1st place. Now kids are getting overweight buy video games. Long ago in the calm days we’ve only played those arcade games. Member those days? Sure there pretty fun to remember. I remember the PACman game. But without video games, it would’ve been the best place overall with out that damn technology like Xbox, Playstation. My cousin hates looking at other kids pretending to be cool. He says that they should be ashamed of what there doing. My cousin says video games are boring he only plays it when his friends are at his place. He is always on the book of Aircraft learning about planes. That’s what makes me proud of him. I’m sure he’ll follow his dreams as a Naval Pilot.

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By: Lincoln 7 - 9th May 2013 at 22:24

I think we can blame modern technology for the lack of youngsters interest in aircraft these days, the reason being Xboxes, Playstations etc. One of my Grandsons spends nearly every waking hour playing games, and need not even leave his bedroom to talk to his friends.whilst playing.

I remember seeing the Brabazon one day flying overhead in Peterborough, that will remain in my head until my dying day, it left such an overwhelming sight in my mind, nowadays, all I see over my house is the modern jets, which no longer inspire me, such as the Golden Oldies.
Happy days, sadly, long since gone.
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By: F-18Growler - 9th May 2013 at 22:14

Yes sometimes it can attract kids. Infact, kids are mostly into the sports kind of thing today. My 11 year old cousin LOVES aviation like literly he loves many military aircraft like the Super Hornet, F-16, F-22, F-35 and many more planes. He told me that he wants to be a pilot in the Navy flying the F/A-18E/F which amazes me what he wants to be when he’s all grown up. I just can’t belive that long ago kids were kids, but today kids are sporty and they dress all stupid with their caps and saggy pants REALLY? This social world world is turning into some nonsense I can’t belive what the world is turning into today. I really hate seeing kids with their sporting clothes and hats thinking that their cool. What are the parents thinking? Sure kids are sporty but it’s very disappointing and unacceptable how kids are dressing and look at bad stuff and swear in front of people. But anyways aviation will and always attract kids when and whenever they want to be interested in it.

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By: trumper - 9th May 2013 at 22:05

When we were children we used to make plastic model aircraft by the score-how many do now? not many i guess.

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By: charliehunt - 9th May 2013 at 22:00

Not much which is perhaps why those enthusiastic youngsters look back rather than forwards. Having said that compare the Historic and MM forums here. Maybe they represent a microcosm of interest across the years. If so my original suggestion might be flawed.

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