September 13, 2004 at 8:40 am
ok i realise to some of you this isnt historic, but to me it is as the photo is obviously quite old.
I got this photo from Bruntingthorpe the other week and the author is unknown but i wondered if anyone could shed any light as to when ,where and why?
I have a feeling its one of the prototypes and is undergoing some kind of test?
By: adwwebber - 15th September 2004 at 16:41
seen a picture in this months aircraft illustrated (sorry key publishing) of F22 undergoing similar ecm and electromagnetic tests in a special housing not like this.
Come on guys you never let me down before………………….
By: ForkTailedDevil - 14th September 2004 at 22:56
I only have two frivolous suggestions
1. Its had its tyres nicked and is up on blocks in a Liverpool housing estate :diablo:
2. The groundcrew got bored and decided to set up a picture specifically to keep aviation enthusiasts intrigued 😀
By: John C - 14th September 2004 at 22:48
Or even EMC/RFI testing – Electromagnetic compatability to ensure the systems are hardened against radio interferance and don’t produce any unwanted electronic emissions? More of a passive test, but needs doing.
JC
By: adwwebber - 14th September 2004 at 22:16
ECM testing ? countermeasure or counter-countermeasure ? surely that would be done airborne ?
By: Barnowl - 14th September 2004 at 12:03
Sounds good… was it released on VHS or DVD? Probably not i supose!
By: Dave Homewood - 14th September 2004 at 11:56
I do remember it – it was a BBC production and was one of those 55 minute 6-8 episode things. My recollection of the story is that the Tornado collided with the UFO and the pilot bailed out, although his navigator died in the crash (here endeth the aircraft involvement, I think, before the end of the first episode). The UFO came down in Scotland (I think) and from then on the plot went down hill with multiple conspiracies, inter-departmental fighting over who has authority over who, senior officers who disbelieved in the pilots story (he was either a coward or suffering from stress type of thing), the CO who might have believed in the pilot (or not – I can’t remember), and – of course – the love interest… The thing that struck me at the time was how much more adept RAF pilots seemed to be than infantry officers when doing the same soldiering-type job.
As far as I remember the actual ending signified that there would not be a second series, since I believe that we are now all alien controlled and there would be little point.Flood
Hmmm, yep. It is starting to come back to me clearer now. Thanks Flood. Maybe it was a mini-series but I am almost certain it wasn’t six-parts when it screened here. I must have been condensed and edited or something. They do ofetn do that when trying to sell crap serials abroad. I remember seeing the beginning with the Tornadoes. But if it was six parts when screened here I’d be very surprised. Mind you, I might have only watched one episode and sworn not to bother with the rest because it was pretty much ‘pants’ as the English say – and I realise why now when I check IMDb and see it was co-produced with an American network called the Sci-fi channel!! 😮 Oh dear…
By: tonyd - 13th September 2004 at 22:13
EMC testing methinx….the aircraft is live (blanks etc fitted).
By: von Perthes - 13th September 2004 at 20:39
Look here http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue86/screen.html and here http://www.allyourtv.com/moviesspecials/i/moviesspecialsinvasionearth.html for info on ‘Invasion Earth’
Geoff.
By: Flood - 13th September 2004 at 20:18
I can’t for the life of me recall the film title, I wish I could. It was made within the last five years I’d expect, and appeared to be made-for-tv, but wasn’t up to the standard of most British one-off dramas. It was a bit sci-fi-ish, and a bit too much like it was in the American mould of conspiracy films if I remember right, but overall it was not too bad. It was certainly obscure and it played on TV here with little fanfare.
Basically a young Tonado pilot gets himself inadvertantly mixed up in conspircay etc., when alien space craft are spotted and the RAF capture one and have it hidden in a hangar on some remote RAF base (very Aer 57-ish). I think there was the obligitory lovely young female scientist on his side too. Can’t remember any notable actors in it, probably made on a shoestring with lots of free help from the RAF – that’s the impression it gave.
That’s all I can recall, sorry. Someone here must have seen it. I only watched it for the fighters, I hate Sci-fi unless its Red Dwarf.
As for the boxes this jet sits on, its hard to tell – are they wooden or concrete?
I do remember it – it was a BBC production and was one of those 55 minute 6-8 episode things. My recollection of the story is that the Tornado collided with the UFO and the pilot bailed out, although his navigator died in the crash (here endeth the aircraft involvement, I think, before the end of the first episode). The UFO came down in Scotland (I think) and from then on the plot went down hill with multiple conspiracies, inter-departmental fighting over who has authority over who, senior officers who disbelieved in the pilots story (he was either a coward or suffering from stress type of thing), the CO who might have believed in the pilot (or not – I can’t remember), and – of course – the love interest… The thing that struck me at the time was how much more adept RAF pilots seemed to be than infantry officers when doing the same soldiering-type job.
As far as I remember the actual ending signified that there would not be a second series, since I believe that we are now all alien controlled and there would be little point.
Flood
By: SteveO - 13th September 2004 at 19:22
Or perhaps its preparation for a trial fit of a Grand Slam 22,000 pounder!
By: SteveO - 13th September 2004 at 16:44
Electro Magnetic Pulse testing?
I have seen a picture of a B-52 towed out onto a huge wooden pedestal which is standing in a very large pit for EMP tests.
I think the sci-fi show was called INVASION.
By: adwwebber - 13th September 2004 at 11:09
Dave, that sounds like a John Nichol book plot ? (yes i did buy them ) no accounting for taste. In my defense that was before i met him though
By: adwwebber - 13th September 2004 at 11:07
John the red bits are in fact the blanks, also worth noting is that the nose is covered as well.
And i just noticed that the external tanks are Hindenburgers not the usual Gr1/b style. Maybe this photo isnt as old as it looks. the reprint date on the back of photo is 1999.
By: Dave Homewood - 13th September 2004 at 11:03
I can’t for the life of me recall the film title, I wish I could. It was made within the last five years I’d expect, and appeared to be made-for-tv, but wasn’t up to the standard of most British one-off dramas. It was a bit sci-fi-ish, and a bit too much like it was in the American mould of conspiracy films if I remember right, but overall it was not too bad. It was certainly obscure and it played on TV here with little fanfare.
Basically a young Tonado pilot gets himself inadvertantly mixed up in conspircay etc., when alien space craft are spotted and the RAF capture one and have it hidden in a hangar on some remote RAF base (very Aer 57-ish). I think there was the obligitory lovely young female scientist on his side too. Can’t remember any notable actors in it, probably made on a shoestring with lots of free help from the RAF – that’s the impression it gave.
That’s all I can recall, sorry. Someone here must have seen it. I only watched it for the fighters, I hate Sci-fi unless its Red Dwarf.
As for the boxes this jet sits on, its hard to tell – are they wooden or concrete?
By: John C - 13th September 2004 at 10:41
Independance Day is the only big film of recent years that had a modern RAF mention…
JC
By: John C - 13th September 2004 at 10:39
The boxes are numbered twice each – does this mean that additional sections could have been added or removed to vary the height from ground level?
The wings are tied so the variable geometry isn’t being used, and the antenna’s on each side of the fusalage are coloured red (and possibly underneath – but these could be safety flags).
apart from that, haven’t a clue!
JC
By: adwwebber - 13th September 2004 at 10:34
Dave, what film was that ? be interested to see that .
Barn Owl, surely they would of just moved it somewhere else as apposed to taking time to lift it upon there ?
By: Barnowl - 13th September 2004 at 10:31
Could it be awaiting shipment/transport and be propped up on the boxes as the ground surface is not strong enough to hold it?
By: Dave Homewood - 13th September 2004 at 10:28
This is probably way off the mark, and though meant to be a serious suggestion will sound as daft as some of the jokes here – but one thing that popped into my head is perhaps it was raised for film work? There was British a film a few years back about the RAF taking on alien space craft. I just wonder if maybe this was used for cockpit shots, raised so the background would be blue sky and the props men can use smoke to look like you’re flying in clouds. The film featured RAF Tornadoes and Jaguars if i recall correctly.
It definately looks like the type of weather you’d get when you wanted blue skies!
By: adwwebber - 13th September 2004 at 10:26
It appears to be secured by wire at the nose wheel and fabric by the drop tanks.
Flood i meant a test of its own TF ground mapping radar, sorry should of been clearer