January 11, 2004 at 4:11 pm
Personally, I don’t like long threads, but I know some of you do, and as I found this in the Winnipeg Free Press (!), I thought you may like to read the whole article.
10 January 2004
Winnipeg Free Press
Jim Shilliday Hamilton — During a stopover on a flight to St. John’s, we discovered that Canada has one of just two flying Avro Lancaster bombers in the world — it honours a young Winnipeg man who won the Victoria Cross.
People from as far away as England come here to get a one-hour ride in it, for $1,400 a pop.
Dozens show up each year at the Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum in Hamilton, Ont. to fly in the Second World War bomber, the best the allied forces had. It is one of 40 aircraft in the renowned museum, which preserves Canada’s military aviation history.
The Lancaster is dedicated to the memory of Pilot Officer Andrew Mynarski, and bears the colours and markings of his aircraft, which flew with 419 (Moose) Squadron. On June 13, 1944, his aircraft was shot down in flames by a night fighter. Mynarski, ignoring his own safety, tried to free the trapped rear gunner. The gunner survived, Mynarski died.
Beth and I were waiting for a connecting flight when we decided to visit the museum. It took our breath away.
No other Canadian aviation museum has so many of its exhibits airworthy and frequently flown. Besides the Lancaster, two other aircraft — the 1930s Boeing Stearman open-cockpit biplane trainer and the North American (Canadian Car and Foundry) Harvard trainer — also take up passengers. Two flights are offered: a bird’s-eye view of Hamilton and the Lake Ontario shoreline; Niagara Peninsula and the Grand River area.
For aviation enthusiasts, the museum at Hamilton International Airport is a treat, a 10,000-square-metre delta-winged building opened in 1996. Chock full with almost every aircraft flown by Canada’s air force pilots — including a diminutive First World War Sopwith Pup biplane — the museum is open daily, closed only on Christmas, Boxing Day and New Year’s Day. It is affiliated with the Canada Aviation Museum in Ottawa.
There’s an appealing atmosphere of respect and remembrance of a past through aviation displays, memorabilia and photos of Canada’s leading aviators. Muted background sound is the nostalgic music of the wartime years, ballads and big bands.
On the upper level, you can watch volunteers at work building a replica of the Silver Dart, the first plane to fly in Canada (the British Empire, in fact), in 1909. The Silver Dart was the product of an organization run by Alexander Graham Bell, inventor of the telephone.
All operations (manned mostly by volunteers) are under one roof: aircraft rides (all pilots have commercial licences), gift shop, cafeteria, guided tours, aviation library, vintage aviation movies in the Rolls Royce theatre. Meeting rooms can be rented. Private dinners, reunions or theme events can be arranged with guests dining and dancing beneath propellers or jet intakes.
The museum is just a five-minute stroll from the airport passenger terminal, easily identifiable by the F-104 Lockheed (Canadair) Starfighter at the entrance, standing on its tail, blasting skyward. If you are flying Westjet and stop over at Hamilton, your boarding pass will admit you to the museum. Westjet is a museum supporter.
Visitors can test their flying skills in flight simulators. They can sit in the cockpits of trainers and fighters. They can get close up to all the colourfully painted and camouflaged aircraft. Beth used remote controls and discovered she could manoeuvre a model Hawker Hurricane fighter (remember The Few in the Battle of Britain?) or raise and lower flaps and undercarriage of a real Lockheed (Canadair) T-33 jet trainer.
Why pay $1,400 to fly in an old bomber? Well, it’s the only show in town (the world). The Royal Air Force has the only other flying Lancaster, but it doesn’t make room for the public. There’s a mystique involved, particularly for older people with memories of the aircraft that played a huge role in winning the Second World War.
Thousands of Canadian boys from coast to coast were Lancaster crew members — gunners, navigators, bomb aimers, pilots — and thousands of them died during raids over occupied Europe. People recall the exploits of Guy Gibson and his Dam Busters, and the movie that followed, featuring the Lancaster.
Lancasters flew 156,192 sorties, twice those of its nearest “competitor,” the Handley Page Halifax. Some 152,000 aircrew served in Bomber Command, 47,268 of them killed in action. The Royal Canadian Air Force lost 9,919 men in Bomber Command.
And people recall the shameful 1992 CBC series, The Valour and the Horror. The second episode, Death by Moonlight: Bomber Command, attempted to rewrite history and trivialize the deaths of so many young men. It resulted in aircrew veterans from Canada, Australia, New Zealand, United Kingdom and United States suing the CBC.
“Those who fought, and whose many friends gave their lives, to preserve individual freedom against the arbitrary power of the State, as personified in Adolf Hitler, must fight today to preserve the truth of what they did from state-supported filmmakers in Canada,” they stated.
So, to help support the museum, some people will fork over a lot of money to fly in one of its aircraft. For $1,000, a “benefactor” gets the $100 one-year membership, a $500 tax receipt and, among other privileges, a flight in a Harvard or Stearman. For $1,500, a “bomber crew” gets the year’s membership, a $1,400 tax receipt and a flight in the Lancaster.
A Lancaster bomber interior is a cramped environment. Of the four paying customers in each flight, only one has a tiny window. If they are lucky, said a woman who made the flight — and can get over the wing spar that caught the shins of so many bomber crews — they are invited up to the cockpit for a look around during the flight. All are ecstatic when they recall their adventure.
Of 7,377 Lancasters built in the UK and Canada during the war, only 17 remain more or less complete, around the world.
The Lancaster makes two flights a week on average, from May until Nov. 11, Remembrance Day. Then it goes into the hangar to pose handsomely, and get its winter maintenance checks. The Harvard often takes up passengers in winter.
If you’re killing time in the Hamilton terminal during a Westjet stopover, hustle over to the Canadian Warplane Heritage hangar. You won’t regret it. And if you’re spending time in the Hamilton area, see about a Lancaster flip. There’s no place else in the world you can do it.
Jim Shilliday is a Manitoba writerand traveller. He and his wife Bethlive in Stonewall.
By: Peter - 7th August 2014 at 02:50
Already being discussed in this Sticky Thread…
By: Peter - 19th October 2012 at 14:56
Correct, these are the only two canadian survivors to see combat service although Lanc KB994 carried bomb symbols on her nose but that airframe was only a fuselage which has now been split up between the uk Florida and Australia.
By: Jester1979 - 19th October 2012 at 10:38
Sorry Peter, that was a mistype by me
Am I correct in saying that ‘882 and ‘839 are the only surviving Mk 10s with combat records though?
By: Peter - 19th October 2012 at 04:44
Jester… KB882 is remaining in her postwar markings and KB839 is the one being converted back to wartime colors etc.
By: JDH1976 - 18th October 2012 at 19:37
lady Orchid
Here is a picture of FM136 nearing the end of her re-paint as W-LO
By: Jester1979 - 18th October 2012 at 18:43
It’s great that KB882 is being restored back to her wartime markings
Always thought it was ironic how KB882 and KB839 are the only surviving Mk 10s with combat records, and also the only two displayed in post war markings.
Of course I am sure I will be corrected if this is wrong…
By: Peter - 18th October 2012 at 16:43
Apparently they are going to restore her back to wartime colors and fit as best they can including gun turrets both nose and midupper.
https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=51dcd035840dc300&id=51DCD035840DC300!3234&Bsrc=Share&Bpub=SDX.SkyDrive&sc=Photos#cid=51DCD035840DC300&id=51DCD035840DC300%214135&sc=photos
By: HP111 - 18th October 2012 at 16:00
Just to update a little ..
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KB 839 RCAF base Greenwood NS Under restoration back to wartime condition
Now I’m intrigued. Does this include rough components, worn equipment, draughty fuselage etc:diablo:
Seriously though, what is the baseline for this sort of restoration? Just a cosmetic paint job?
By: Peter - 18th October 2012 at 15:25
Just to update a little ..
FM 213 Canadian Warplane Heritage, Hamilton ON
KB 944 Ottawa ON
FM 212 Windsor ON Under restoration to airworthy status
FM 104 Toronto area currently stored in Toronto pending new home
FM 159 Nanton, Alberta ground running restoration..3 merlins now operable incl flaps and bombdoors
FM 136 Calgary, Alberta recently repainted as WLO Lady Orchid with nose art
KB 882 Nr Edmunston NB Fundraising underway for restoration
KB 839 RCAF base Greenwood NS Under restoration back to wartime condition
By: charliehunt - 18th October 2012 at 08:33
Perfect and comprehensive answer, Roborough! Thank you very much.:)
By: Roborough - 18th October 2012 at 01:11
Charlie:
To answer your original questions (I think!) There are 8 complete Lancasters in Canada:
FM 213 Canadian Warplane Heritage, Hamilton ON
KB 944 Ottawa ON
FM 212 Windsor ON
FM 104 Toronto area
FM 159 Nanton, Alberta
FM 136 Calgary, Alberta
KB 882 Nr Edmunston NB
KB 839 RCAF base Greenwood NS
Of these only FM 213 is currently airworthy. It flies most weekends during the summer, generally in the Hamilton, Toronto, Ottawa areas, but it often takes a long trip during the year, typically, to Western Canada.
If you are wealthy enough and can buy the necessary type of memberdhip with CWH you get to fly in her.
Regards
Bill
By: Peter - 17th October 2012 at 22:50
The one in calgary FM136 will never fly having been previously pedestal mounted and non airworthy repairs done to the missing centre section floor.
By: Stewart24 - 17th October 2012 at 22:30
NX611
Slightly off the subject, but as there is a talk of a second airworthy Lancaster in Canada, what happenned to the plan to put Nx611 ‘Just Jane’ back into the air at East Kirkby?here seems to be no mention of it on their website or on any forum for a while. Thanks.
By: RogerN - 17th October 2012 at 20:38
Hi, I just wondered what state the Lancaster at Calgary is in, is it a possable flyer at sometime?
Roger
By: Peter - 17th October 2012 at 16:01
Fm212 is being restored to airworthy standard that way if at the end of the restoration they can fly it then they will be able to.
By: mmitch - 17th October 2012 at 08:46
I visited the BBMF on Monday. They are now on Winter maintenance and
after the incident with the CWH Lancaster, the wing tips are being removed, so the mounting structure can be examined.
mmitch.
By: pogno - 17th October 2012 at 08:45
A thread has been running on WIX about the restoration of FM212
its very interesting. http://www.warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=28409
I must admit I am unsure whether they are aiming to fly it or just doing the work to an airworthy standard just in case they decide to fly at a later date. It does make sense as the effort is the same both ways.
Richard
By: charliehunt - 17th October 2012 at 08:26
Yes, I am talking about Canada – I know well the situation here. So I was mistaken. I thought there was already an airworthy Lanc, hence my question about its appearances, and I certainly didn’t know there were three potential restorations to flight. Thanks.
By: Peter - 17th October 2012 at 03:24
By way of two are you talking about here in Canada or in the UK? Of the Canadian lancasters here in canada there are only three chances for restoration to flight. These would be FM212 in Windsor, Fm159 in Nanton and KB882 in New Brunswick with a fourth being KB944 in Ottawa at the national museum.
By: Bluebird Mike - 1st February 2008 at 23:07
You can imagine on the one hand that the Lanc doing it’s poppy drop routine somewhere over Germany could be taken as an ultimate symbol of peace…but then again, I can just as easily imagine the equal if not greater amount of upropar such a plan would cause as well!