Canadian Mossie up for sale???

(shame that TW117 was sold off…)

Borderline criminal decision, especially given it was effectively flown into preservation post filming 633 Squadron.

JB,
More than just money and paperwork I would suggest to revert a Mosquito to the care of the BBMF. The increasing outsourcing of responsibility and reluctance to operate aircraft without complete and robust Safety Cases / DA oversight would, I suggest, rule out a commercially restored complex aircraft such as the Mosquito from being released for RAF operation. Indeed, the trend has been to remove aircraft from military oversight (witness the AACHF and RNHF…) as the rules surrounding the airworthiness assurance of aircraft get ever stricter, with fewer loopholes for historic to exploit. To put it simply, even if money to purchase could be found, to find a chain of military engineers, senior officers and Civil Servants all willing to sign-off on a one-off aircraft is unlikely, given that accountability would find them in the event of an accident. Even QinetiQ are removing their old military types to save both operating costs and risk overhead. The best, albeit remote, bet for a BBMF Mosquito would be for the RAF Museum to gift one into a thoroughly overseen restoration, conducted under the auspices of a nominated Design Authority. TA639 and TJ138 are both on the RAFM’s books, with pretty well documented histories (shame that TW117 was sold off…) and we could always be cheeky and see if we could get TH998 back from seemingly eternal storage……

O.K. let’s make a deal: if you Brits cancel Brexit, may be the EU will fund a Mossie for the BoBMF? 😉 😉
Aerovet

Talks certainly progressed but it is unclear whether RR299 was definitely going to BBMF.

No proof, only the bomber pilots joshing the fighter pilots that if it had been on the flight then as it was a twin, ‘the bomber boys’ would fly it.. as you could imagine the twin engine jet guys disagreed (Jag/Typh/Torn)!

Have to agree with post #19, plus of course a simple lack of space in the hangar. The BAe Mosquito was a known quantity with a Design Authority, though I have never seen documentary evidence that it was to join BBMF, only anecdotal comments from Flight personnel. Anyone got evidence out there? See you tomorrow Forestfan!

Haven’t ARC been retained as Design Authority for one of the “UK” Mosquitos? If so, that might help.

Well, if its history can be proven with lifing and modification data right back to manufacture; if there is an Approved Documentation Set with it; if there is a means of industry support out there for maintenance; if there is an organisation out there willing to act as Design Authority; that’s simplistically and off the top of my head before you even get to “finance”! Would be nice, but impossible I would suggest. More chance of the CAA going for it than the MAA I think.

What would stop the BBMF from bringing it into the RAF and removing it from the civil register? (aside from money..:) )
I would think it would just be a surmountable paperwork exercise, after all the RAF does buy aircraft that at one time had civil test or delivery identities.

BBMF do not operate aircraft or a are geared up to support aircraft on the civilian register, that, and for many other reasons this wouldn’t happen any time soon.
Agent K

BBMF were about to get the BAe Mosquito T3 the year it crashed.

Hi
I heard locally that it might still have the original main wing spar
cheers jerry

Would the CAA let if fly if it came to the UK?

Nearly 80 years I think dhfan!

It was 60-ish years old at the time – well it would have been if I hadn’t remembered the wrong aeroplane – so I guess it’s 4 or 5 years younger.

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Would be a fantastic addition to BBMF, but I’m afraid it will never happen.

Rich.

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BBMF do not operate aircraft or a are geared up to support aircraft on the civilian register, that, and for many other reasons this wouldn’t happen any time soon.

It wasn’t W4050 that was surveyed, it was TA634 – and yes, the conclusion was that it could be made airworthy, but that there would be significant work required.

I wasn’t involved in the commissioning of the survey – which took place some 20 years ago now, but was broadly aware of the outcome.

The issue with VR796 would be how much invasive inspection would be required to determine its airworthiness, IF that hadn’t been done during the restoration. I understand that some fairly heavy duty wood work was carried out.

Bruce

Nearly 80 years I think dhfan!

Original wood isn’t necessarily a problem.
A survey was done on W4050 some years ago to see what sort of deterioration there had been over the 60? years since it had been built and I believe the conclusion was it could be made airworthy, not that there was ever any intention of doing so.
Bruce may remember more clearly as, from memory, I think he was involved in commissioning the survey and how it was carried out.

Original wood…………………

Is it a coincidence it is up for sale as other ones are now taking to the skies.Be nice to see it back in the air.

Would be a fantastic addition to BBMF, but I’m afraid it will never happen.
Rich.