Canberra bombing radar/ Blue Shadow radar?

Thanks again guys.:)

The Canberra had a tried-and-true bombsight of the ‘T’ series, which worked well unless the navigator/bomb aimer had finger trouble.

Yes, that was something our navs in the RAAF suffered from!

Bri :diablo:

Yes.

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Isn’t that why Canberras have a (plexi)glass nose?

Thats a very good question, where was the radar to be mounted on the canberra, in the nose?:confused:

Isn’t that why Canberras have a (plexi)glass nose?

The radar for the B.3/45 Canberra B.1 was to be H2S Mk.9 with NBC Mk.2 but this was delayed such that the Canberra B.1 with H2S would not be ready before the H2S 9A equipped B.9/48 (Valiant) and the RAF decided that they only needed one type of high altitude blind bomber in that time scale and and that development of the radar could be concentrated on the V-bomber version.

References
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British Secret Projects – Jet Bombers since 1949, Tony Buttler

English Electric Canberra, Ken Delve

Fantastic, thanks very much, that seems like everything cleared up, cheers everybody.:)

The radar for the B.3/45 Canberra B.1 was to be H2S Mk.9 with NBC Mk.2 but this was delayed such that the Canberra B.1 with H2S would not be ready before the H2S 9A equipped B.9/48 (Valiant) and the RAF decided that they only needed one type of high altitude blind bomber in that time scale and and that development of the radar could be concentrated on the V-bomber version.

References
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British Secret Projects – Jet Bombers since 1949, Tony Buttler

English Electric Canberra, Ken Delve

Putnam/EE has overload at (TRE, to be) RRE as the issue. It does not spell out which kit was intended for A1, but suggests the resources involved were allocated to the higher priority V-Craft NBS. A1 was heading for deletion when Stalin saved it, Berlin, Spring,1948. Statue at Salmesbury would be appropriate.

Thanks Ken.;)

Putnam/EE has overload at (TRE, to be) RRE as the issue. It does not spell out which kit was intended for A1, but suggests the resources involved were allocated to the higher priority V-Craft NBS. A1 was heading for deletion when Stalin saved it, Berlin, Spring,1948. Statue at Salmesbury would be appropriate.

According to Ken Delve in ‘English Electric Canberra’ there were 25 B6(BS) conversions by Boulton Paul,most of these ultimately converted to B16 by Marshalls and that one of the rear crew ejection seats was removed to make space available for the BS gear!
Because of the way that the book is laid out it is difficult to say how many a/c were fitted with BS.
The first squadron to have BS fitted was 109 ,sending a/c to TRE Defford in jan 1953,the first a/c returned to 109 in june.The overall conclusion seemed to be that it was of limited value and should only be used for ‘target marking’.
However KD goes on to say that this good advice was ignored and that most of the later period bomber sqdns had BS fitted.

Thanks bazv, I was wondering whether this was the same radar that was initially planned for the B.1, I was under the impression that the addition of the radar reduced the crew to two, indeed the original requirement called for a two seat fast bomber with a radar bombing sight.

According to Ken Delve in ‘English Electric Canberra’ there were 25 B6(BS) conversions by Boulton Paul,most of these ultimately converted to B16 by Marshalls and that one of the rear crew ejection seats was removed to make space available for the BS gear!
Because of the way that the book is laid out it is difficult to say how many a/c were fitted with BS.
The first squadron to have BS fitted was 109 ,sending a/c to TRE Defford in jan 1953,the first a/c returned to 109 in june.The overall conclusion seemed to be that it was of limited value and should only be used for ‘target marking’.
However KD goes on to say that this good advice was ignored and that most of the later period bomber sqdns had BS fitted.

Perhaps it was because they were high-altitude bombers. After all, what radar would be useful apart from weather radar?

By the way, most of them did have radar – just a different type called Doppler which was used for navigation. Green Satin at first, then Blue Silk later.

Bri 😎

The radar I am looking for information on was a radar bombing sight. They are fairly common on high altitude bombers.

Perhaps it was because they were high-altitude bombers. After all, what radar would be useful apart from weather radar?

By the way, most of them did have radar – just a different type called Doppler which was used for navigation. Green Satin at first, then Blue Silk later.

Bri 😎