July 26, 2006 at 11:06 pm
Hi
I was wondering if anyone could help out with the weights and approximate dimensions of the following to assist in the movment of a Canberra PR7, I am unable to obtain the manuals from my sources at the moment due to holidays and need the info ASAP for our transport/lifting contractor.
Tail Section.
Centre Section.
Cockpit section – in case it has to be removed from centre section.
Wings – can they be removed with the engines in situ.
Avon 109 Engine
Many Thanks in advance 🙂
By: LesB - 2nd August 2006 at 20:01
Mark
These are some of the pics from when they picked-up WF922. I use them on my Canberra web site – Survivors page for 922 – courtesy of MAM’s archive.




Hope these may help in some way. Maybe Jag has pics of the wings mounted on a truck.
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By: Mark Gaskell - 2nd August 2006 at 13:02
Sounds intresting Jagx204, how did you transport the wings.
Would also be intrested in seeing any photos you have of the move.
Many thanks
Mark
By: Jagx204 - 27th July 2006 at 22:32
Mark, in no way wishing to teach granny to s@ck eggs, when we moved WF922 from Cambridge Airport we kept the fuselage complete removing just the tailplane and vertical fin. The engines were removed from the wings and the wings then seperated at the fuselage by removing the mainplane wing bolts and undoing a whole bunch of screws connecting the wing to fuse fillets……
The fuselage was transported on a ‘trombone’ extending trailer with a police escort, I’ve some photos somewhere of the whole thing arriving at Coventry if your interested
HTH
By: Mark Gaskell - 27th July 2006 at 22:12
Thanks guys for all of your help, problem now sorted.
I can’t reveal which PR7 it is at the momment but watch this space.
By: Ross_McNeill - 27th July 2006 at 10:30
For the PR.9:
I’ll list the components as given so you can calculate your transport split
Tail Section.
Rear Fuselage 19’1″ x 6’0″ x 8’0″ – 645 lb tare
Tail Plane 26’6″ x 8’o” x 1’9″ – 522 lb tare
Elevator 14’0″ x 4’9″ x 1’6″ – 114 lb tare
Fin 6’4″ x 7’3″ x 1’6″ – 96 lb tare
Rudder 7’1″ x 7’1″ x 1″4″ – 142 lb tare
Elevator tab 5’7″ x 0’9″ x 0’3″ – 7 lb tare
Rear fairing 5’0″ x 2’6″ x 3’0″ – 22 lb tare
Centre Section (no cockpit included).
(Dimensions of 9 which is about 6′ longer than 7)
Centre Fuselage 27’6″ x 7’8″ x 7’0″ – 2190 lb tare
Flare bay door 11’4″ x 3’3″ x 2’2″ – 103 lb tare
Belly tank 9’6″ x 6’0″ x 2’6″ – 410 lb tare
Cockpit section – in case it has to be removed from centre section.
Nose 5’0″ x 4’2″ x 4’2″ – 192 lb tare
Frangible hatch 4’3″ x 3’7″ x 0’8″ – 40 lb tare
Front fuselage 12’6″ x 6’6″ x 8’6″ – 1010 lb tare
Canopy 5’7″ x 2’10” x 2’1″ – 204 lb tare
Nose u/c jack 2’2″ x 0’5″ x 0’5″ – 8lb tare
Nose u/c radius rod 3’11” x 0’4″ x 0’8″ – 29 lb tare
Nose u/c wheel and leg 2’2″ x 1’7″ x 3’7″ – 260 lb tare
Nose u/c door 4’2″ x 0’3″ x 1’5″ – 12 lb tare
Wings – can they be removed with the engines in situ (not a lift shown in AP).
Starboard – Port is same again
fuel tank 11’4″ x 7’1″ x 2’3″ – 428 lb tare
Main plane 31’0″ x 22’3″ x 4’3″ – 2352 lb tare
Inboard flap 5’8″ x 2’6″ x 0’6″ – 21 lb tare
Outboard flap 9’0″ x 2’9″ x 0’6″ – 31 lb
Aileron 12’8″ x 4’2″ x 0’9″ – 72 lb tare
Wing tip 5’1″ x 0’8″ x 0’6″ – 4 lb tare
Wing tip tank 14’7″ x 1’11” x 1’10” – 122 lb tare
Main u/c wheel and leg 3’11” x 2’1″ x 6’3″ – 694 lb tare
Main u/c side stay 2’9″ x 0’8″ x 0’8″ – 36 lb tare
Main u/c jack 2’0″ x 0’5″ x 0’7″ – 16 lb tare
Avon 109 Engine
Details for 206
Engine front cowl 5’7″ x 4’0″ x 3’11” – 120 lb tare
Engine change unit 11’0″ x 3’6″ x 3’6″ – 2827 lb tare
Engine top rear cowling 5’5″ x 4’0″ x 1’4″ – 29 lb tare
Jet pipe 13’3″ x 2’9″ x 2’9″ – 247 lb tare
Jet pipe cowling 3’8″ x 2’8″ x 2’8″ – 29 lb tare
Engine bottom rear cowling 5’10” x 4’0″ x 1’4″ – 45 lb tare
Service panel 2’2″ x 4’2″ x 1’9″ – 18 lb tare
Regards
Ross
By: TwinOtter23 - 27th July 2006 at 08:34
Mark,
I believe that the main wings bolts are outboard of the engine nacelles and therefore can be accessed without the engines having to be removed.
For road transport of Canberras I believe that the wing chord dimension is the critical one as this can make the wings and the centre section of the aircraft into a wide load. This could entail angling everything on the trailer; a specialised transport company [eg. RAF St Athan]; Police permits etc.
By: J31/32 - 27th July 2006 at 08:08
Mornin’
Would this be the warton example? Just me being nosey! 😮
J man
By: DavidGeorge - 27th July 2006 at 06:54
I don’t know if this is any help but from the Pilot’s Notes:
– Length Overall – 66′ 8″
– Span without tip tanks – 64′
– Span with tip tanks – 65′ 6″
– Height to top of fin – 15′ 7″
If the exact dimensions are not critical you may be able to scale them from photographs.
By: Alan Clark - 26th July 2006 at 23:40
As is was almost the same as a B.6 use that as a bench mark figure, the PR.7 was a little lighter that the B.6 but unladen weight is unlikely to be that different, about 22000lb.
By: 109ster - 26th July 2006 at 23:40
Oh hang on….found this in my stuff here
Avon 109:-
Weight – 1180kg
Length – 3.53m
Diameter – 1.09m (maximum)
well that’s something for the time being anyway.
Regards
Chris
By: 109ster - 26th July 2006 at 23:35
How desperate are you?
I’ll be definately going over to Coventry Airport early next week and i can get all you need from WK163’s Log Cards.
An Avon 109 is approx 1.25 ton if that helps?
I’ll see if I can get more info tomorrow from our Chief Rigger. 😉
Regards
Chris