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Canberra T4 help needed

Hi,

I am working as a volunteer on a Cannberra T4 cockpit at Ysterplaat AFB museum (Cape Town). I want to restore it and convert it into a dual control flight simulator. As all the instuments and panels are missing and most of the controls are gone I need urgent info/pictures or whatever you have so that I can be able to know what are suppose to go where and try to reconstruct it.
The instument panel will be a computer monitor (or two) displaying the instument panel as close as possible.

I am doing this with a zero budget so I will need donations and/ or sponsors to help me finance the project.

Does anyone have perhaps the Pilot’s notes of the T4 on compuer file format. I only have the Pilot’s notes of a B2 in PDF format

I have already convert a Atlas Impala MK1 (MB326) into a Simulator and it is now currenlty standing in the museum at Ysterplaat (See Photos)

Thanks

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By: Dreyerce - 27th January 2009 at 14:49

CD made. It’ll be in the post tomorrow,
Terry

Just received the cd today – busy browsing thru it. That will help me a lot.

Thank you for everything

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By: Dreyerce - 13th January 2009 at 15:31

Thanx a million

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By: TerryP - 12th January 2009 at 20:59

CD made. It’ll be in the post tomorrow,
Terry

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By: Dreyerce - 12th January 2009 at 20:27

That would be much appreciated – but would you be able to send it to South Africa

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By: TerryP - 12th January 2009 at 20:22

I have the AP101B-0404-1A and 101B-0404-1B scanned as “jpg” files. Will both fit onto one CD.

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By: Dreyerce - 12th January 2009 at 20:18

I took some more Photos now – does this help:

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By: scorpion63 - 12th January 2009 at 20:07

It’s not off a T4 it’s from a B(I) 8 or 12, only those marks had G45 or G90 cameras do you have a photo showing the curve of the lower part of the panel I could then identify its correct position for you.

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By: Dreyerce - 12th January 2009 at 19:56

I found a panel inside the Canberra but cannot figure out where it should fit (that is if it is part of the Canberra). Can any af you give some more info on this panel and where it should be fitted please.

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By: peppermint_jam - 3rd January 2009 at 12:41

If you haven’t already, you might want to have a browse of Les Bywaters Canberra website.

http://www.bywat.co.uk/

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By: Dreyerce - 2nd January 2009 at 14:23

457’s original number

Have just discovered that 457’s original number was WJ991. Have found it on the website: http://www.demobbed.org.uk/.
The other T4 that SAAF had (459) original number was WJ617

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By: Dreyerce - 14th December 2008 at 14:52

Here are some images of the inside:

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By: Dreyerce - 14th December 2008 at 14:33

Thank you all for the help.:D:D:D:D

I pretty much need to know what should go where inside the cockpit and how did it look like because I have to rebuild the interior from nothing in such a way that it resembles the cockpit as close as humanly possible.

I know I would not be able to replicate everything, but I will try my best.

So far the museum managed to get me two ejection seats. The one has been used (ejected 🙁 ) so it is of not much use. The other seat is all ripped apart.

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By: alvampman - 13th December 2008 at 10:34

I have pilots notes and the illustrated parts manual ( Vol 3) for the Canberra T.4.

It wouldn’t be a problem for me to scan in any info you want

Alan

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By: John Aeroclub - 11th December 2008 at 12:36

T.4 instrument panel

John

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Aeroclub/T4cockpit.jpg

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By: John Aeroclub - 11th December 2008 at 12:04

The original nose may well be the type not fitted with pilots ejection seats but frame type fixed seats. I will look at my files as I’m sure my T.4 info is South African.

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By: Dreyerce - 11th December 2008 at 07:47

[QUOTE=Pure Lightning;1333369]A very interesting Canberra you have there………do you know any of its history or its serial number?
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As I could find out her number was 457 and delvivered in 1963 and the south African Airforce took delivery on 25 February 1964. In the early 1980’s the nose of an ex Rhodesian Canberra B.2 was fitted to the aircraft and therefore essentially reverting her back to Canberra B.2. So this is actually the original nose section of 457. 457 is now on static display at the Swartkops museum.

Thanks for all the info it will help a lot.

PS the fitting on the door for the hinge pin is also missing.

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By: Die_Noctuque - 10th December 2008 at 20:39

Ahhh lovely lovely Canberra shaped toy!

I will have a dig through my old 39 Sqn notes tomorrow to see if I have anything T4 left over from my rigger days. Think most of it is PR9 though..

Good too see some Canberra action elsewhere in the world though, keep us posted won’t you 😀

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By: nazca_steve - 10th December 2008 at 19:40

Nice project you have going there. I have the T.4 pilot’s notes, but sadly these are in storage at the moment and I don’t think I can get to them easily. That said, I think I may be able to track a low-res (but viewable) PDF down for you in a bit. Stay tuned and again, great work – I am a huge Canberra fan.

**OK, so far all I can find are the B.2 pilot’s notes:

http://www.tailwheel.nl/e/englishelectriccanberra/index.html

but you should be able to find some better pics online for the T.4. There is a thread here where a chap mentions he has the actual notes – maybe you can get in touch with him:

http://www.internationalcockpitclub.org.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=344

Steve

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By: Pure Lightning - 10th December 2008 at 17:40

A very interesting Canberra you have there………do you know any of its history or its serial number?
Here is a pic of how the door should be supported with its prop:

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll98/lightningnut_1980/SG102203.jpg

All the best Matt;)

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By: bazv - 10th December 2008 at 12:45

The door support stay is curved and folds against the door for stowage(held by leather strap and press stud ?)there should be a fitting on the door to take the hinge pin.
The lower end of the stay slotted into a receptacle in the aft door frame.
I am sure one of the cockpit owners will post a photo for you

cheers baz

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