Car park charity Wasp XT788 – fraud trial; defendant banged to rights.

I imagine a similar or lesser outcome for a case at the moment involving fundraising to save something

Update regarding the recovery of monies (or lack of)….

http://www.exeterexpressandecho.co.uk/400-000-Help-Heroes-conman-pay-6-000/story-27522170-detail/story.html

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I’ve put a new thread about ex prisoners in general discussion

Could we stick to the topic please?

Whilst I understand that there is an issue with the ‘Black Mike’ fundraising, it is not for us to name and shame on here.

Bruce

A permanent posting to one of the many experimental drug trials units would seem to fit the bill?
HTH
Resmoroh

I didn’t suggest that he wouldnt ever get a job -however fraud on the CV isn’t going to work for most employers!

As to a home – if he is striped of that – do you for one second think that the benefits won’t be coming up with the goods?

Fraud is a massive problem for him, no insurer will insure anyone convicted of fraud so he may have to walk to his job

One hopes the asset stripping does not include the helicopter that I believe now has a secure museum life. Especially as it is now probably worth more than it originally was due to the amount of helicopter parts donated to this supposedly “Good Cause”, myself included being a donator. Which I do not mind if it is safe now in a museum.

I didn’t suggest that he wouldnt ever get a job -however fraud on the CV isn’t going to work for most employers!

As to a home – if he is striped of that – do you for one second think that the benefits won’t be coming up with the goods?

So the state has to support him for the rest of his life?

Why does it have to be for the rest of his life?

What’s your alternative suggestion for dealing with ex prisoners who can’t get a job?

And yes this should be in general discussion.

So the state has to support him for the rest of his life?

I hope the Judge strips him of everything he owns!

Update re’ asset recovery….

http://www.middevongazette.co.uk/Charity-conman-stripped-assets/story-26107090-detail/story.html

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And they are looking at Asset Recovery too.

Moggy

Mr Copeland sentenced to four & half years today, thus….

http://www.northdevonjournal.co.uk/Help-Heroes-fraudster-Christopher-Copeland-jailed/story-22927428-detail/story.html

http://www.westernmorningnews.co.uk/Help-Heroes-conman-jailed-300-000-fraud/story-22927441-detail/story.html

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Prisons already have work schemes which mean prisoners can earn effectively pocket money. I am not a great believer in ‘work gangs’ – however there must be a tangiable way in which he can recompense ‘Help for Heroes’ and the public who thought their money was going to charity.

Whilst I’m not in favour of a general adoption of American ideas I do feel that people who end up in prison should be formed into ditching or litter picking gangs in bright orange boilersuits and made to work for a living whilst they are inside.

David. Like what picking litter on the side of a road?

I hope the public sees this as a one off and still continues to give to ex service charities as they have done in the past.

That’s the thing with this type of crime it tarnishes charities in general, not just H4H.

Or sell his assets and give the proceeds to the very charity he attempted to deprive?

Bunsen – going to prison means he didn’t get away with it ! His liberty has a value to him – he has been deprived of it! In terms of criminality – he shows little or no sign of being a calculating criminal otherwise he would have gone to far greater efforts to conceal what he was doing !

Whilst I applaud that justice has been done – I hope that some means can he employed so that he can make some kind if material recompense rather than rot in a cell.